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Tyrone
14 hours ago, Bennz said:

Tyrone, sorry can you remind me, are you in a cold frost hollow?  Or are those temps you get normal for the area? It seems a lot colder than I would expect for that area.  

No frost anywhere near the house here, coldest night I've recorded so far was 6C. But we got frost up on the hilltops, back valley at 300m elevation and no air drainage the leaves of Ficus columnaris are black, even Alnus cremastogyne foliage is burned brown. The Ficus just up the hillsides slightly are untouched, amazing how much difference even a few metres can make.  Feral deer are more of an issue than frost though, the number of Ficus columnaris seedlings I've lost to deer is now in the hundreds.

I’m in a valley so yes it can get cold here. The temps I mentioned were in town on the coast. It’s been a mental couple of weeks weather wise.

Will your columnaris come back. What minimum do they take before any damage. I’m growing a heap of them and am eager to know how they will perform. 

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Bennz

I don't know how much frost they can take Tyrone, but I suspect there might be huge variation from individual to individual. I'll let you know in 6 months if they survive! I've lost them both previous times I've tried them in the back valley, but everywhere else on the farm they seem fine, occaisonal light leaf damage in coldest spots only.  As I said, only a couple metres of elevation is the difference between burned black and untouched. Some of mine are starting to look pretty good now. I've planted just over 1000, I really like these trees.

 

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Tyrone
On 5/28/2020 at 4:37 PM, Bennz said:

I don't know how much frost they can take Tyrone, but I suspect there might be huge variation from individual to individual. I'll let you know in 6 months if they survive! I've lost them both previous times I've tried them in the back valley, but everywhere else on the farm they seem fine, occaisonal light leaf damage in coldest spots only.  As I said, only a couple metres of elevation is the difference between burned black and untouched. Some of mine are starting to look pretty good now. I've planted just over 1000, I really like these trees.

 

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Where were those pics taken? They’re amazing trees.

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greysrigging

Spot on with the date ( 1st June ) the first day of winter ( by calendar, not by the sun as is regarded in the US ie the Solstices )
Heavy snowfalls in the ski fields that may extend north along the ranges as far as the Queensland border districts.
https://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/snowy-start-to-winter/531564

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Bennz
On 5/31/2020 at 12:58 AM, Tyrone said:

Where were those pics taken? They’re amazing trees.

My place!

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sandgroper

Warming up a bit for the first week of winter, last week was very wet and very cold.

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Tyrone
3 hours ago, Bennz said:

My place!

How old are those Ficus? Did you plant them?

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Bennz
10 hours ago, Tyrone said:

How old are those Ficus? Did you plant them?

That's actually the same tree from different angles, but got several others almost that age. I planted it in 1998.

 

This one here was from the seed I collected on LHI in 1999, probably planted 2000 or 2001;

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I've got heaps of pictures of younger trees growing here, just have to find them! I must take a picure of deer-damage too, shows what a tasty tree this thing is.

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Tyrone
6 hours ago, Bennz said:

That's actually the same tree from different angles, but got several others almost that age. I planted it in 1998.

 

This one here was from the seed I collected on LHI in 1999, probably planted 2000 or 2001;

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I've got heaps of pictures of younger trees growing here, just have to find them! I must take a picure of deer-damage too, shows what a tasty tree this thing is.

So in about 20 years you can get quite an impressive tree going with curtain roots and everything. That is so cool. Ive got quite a few of these now as well as the standard Ficus macrophylla and they will become my canopy in time. I planted some in March and put them into about 100L of blended manures in each hole plus good irrigation. You could see growth every day. They are fast. My plan is to eventually put tonnes of R sapida and R bauerii out under their canopy in time. Eventually I'll get rid of the sheep paddock and plant tonnes of Ficus. Grass is so over rated.

Hopefully they'll be the climate moderaters I need and will break any frost or cold air drainage issues in the future just by their mass of foliage. Its very cool to see your plants looking so good and doing exactly what I want to do here. :)

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Bennz
1 hour ago, Tyrone said:

So in about 20 years you can get quite an impressive tree going with curtain roots and everything. That is so cool. Ive got quite a few of these now as well as the standard Ficus macrophylla and they will become my canopy in time. I planted some in March and put them into about 100L of blended manures in each hole plus good irrigation. You could see growth every day. They are fast. My plan is to eventually put tonnes of R sapida and R bauerii out under their canopy in time. Eventually I'll get rid of the sheep paddock and plant tonnes of Ficus. Grass is so over rated.

Hopefully they'll be the climate moderaters I need and will break any frost or cold air drainage issues in the future just by their mass of foliage. Its very cool to see your plants looking so good and doing exactly what I want to do here. :)

Tyrone I suspect your trees will be faster than mine, you're closer to the equator and warmer overall, probably sunnier too (about 2300hrs here). The only advantage I have is less defined med rainfall pattern, although we still usually have dry summers and wet winters. And no frost here on the coastal 200 acres.

I want to see pictures of your nikau/banyan grove eventually! I'll be trying the same thing, race you to the finished product?

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Tyrone

Ben, I irrigate all my landscape through the spring to autumn period and the odd dry period through winter. That would produce essentially a more even “rainfall” scenario than what would naturally occur here so soil moisture would probably peak in the spring autumn periods. Nothing is allowed to dry out ever.

Talking about dry periods in winter, we are having a real mild start to winter. I’ve still got the heater going in the house but we are getting maximums in the 19-22 range for the foreseeable future. Yesterday was a sunny 21.4C. I irrigated last night as we haven’t had rain for a few days now.

Btw, you have more sunshine hours than me. You have 2300 I have 2001 according to the web.

I think you will beat me to a fully fledged Banyan nikau forest. I will post up pics along the way. 

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sandgroper

Looks like the coming week will be quite warm and dry, great for the palms but not so good for the dams or our farmers. Hopefully some more rain will be along soon, we need it.

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Tyrone

The weather is looking a bit monotonous and warm here too. Days around 20, 21 with an 18C in there and nights around 9-12C. Not far from winter solstice either. My Butia continues to push flower spikes and open flowers. It’s so confused at the moment.

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