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Tracy

My crawling plumeria "San Diego Sunset" is still pushing flowers here in December.  Summer's pinks, oranges and yellows are now mostly white with pink striping on the unopened flowers which fades to a slight pink hue on the edges as the flower opens.  Here in Southern California, it's just nice to have some plumerias still blooming after Thanksgiving.  The sun had set and light was dimming as I snapped these photos last night appropriately as the San Diego sun set.

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Tracy

...and still going as we enter Winter.  Can't complain when a plumeria is still holding green leaves and blooming on the first day of winter.

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NOT A TA

Here most of the leaves have dropped but I was working on a big trimming job today and there was a 20' plumeria with a couple blooms on it.

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dalmatiansoap

Help! 

My plumeria is loosing color. Leaves are yellow-green and it doesn't look promising. It's getting 2-3 hrs of sun. I'm afraid to feed it with liquid fertilizer before temperature rises a bit more.

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Silas_Sancona
8 minutes ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Help! 

My plumeria is loosing color. Leaves are yellow-green and it doesn't look promising. It's getting 2-3 hrs of sun. I'm afraid to feed it with liquid fertilizer before temperature rises a bit more.

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..Sounds like it's trying to go dormant, esp. if only getting a couple hours of sun, and where you have it it is cool..  Definitely DON'T feed until warmer and it has resumed obvious growth. NO liquid stuff ( Unless Seaweed/ Fish ) either, strictly organics.

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Tracy
3 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Help! 

My plumeria is loosing color. Leaves are yellow-green and it doesn't look promising. It's getting 2-3 hrs of sun. I'm afraid to feed it with liquid fertilizer before temperature rises a bit more.

 

3 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Picture(s)? 

..Sounds like it's trying to go dormant, esp. if only getting a couple hours of sun, and where you have it it is cool..  Definitely DON'T feed until warmer and it has resumed obvious growth. NO liquid stuff ( Unless Seaweed/ Fish ) either, strictly organics.

Here in Southern California, the plumeria society recommends to stop watering plumeria's through winter when they want to go dormant.  Mine get some rain, and a couple get watered when adjacent palms do but in general I lay off the water for winter.  Yellowing leaves at some point before they go dormant isn't unusual, the varieties that keep their leaves green all the way through winter are the exception here.  I would imagine its the same there where you get shorter and colder days as opposed to the true tropics.

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dalmatiansoap

Much worse than yesterday.

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Silas_Sancona
2 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Much worse than yesterday.

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Going dormant.. As long as the stem stays firm, it should be fine.. Will resume growth once it warms a bit more in a month or two.. Perfectly normal. No water while leafless.

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dalmatiansoap

OK, in that case I'm fine, it would mean a lot to me to keep it.

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subsonicdrone

has anyone ever seen a flower which looks like this one?

i found it about a month ago, it has the regular 5 petals plus some extras in the middle

the plant is indoors since the fall... mine has defoliated mostly as well.. hi dalmationsoap!

i included a pic from august when it was outside and growing nicely

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Silas_Sancona
2 hours ago, subsonicdrone said:

has anyone ever seen a flower which looks like this one?

i found it about a month ago, it has the regular 5 petals plus some extras in the middle

the plant is indoors since the fall... mine has defoliated mostly as well.. hi dalmationsoap!

i included a pic from august when it was outside and growing nicely

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Would have to look around to see if it's an actual variety but there are a few out there which produce double petaled flowers..  Typical, single petaled vars. can sometimes produce individual flowers w/ extra petals as well. Your specimen looks great regardless..

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subsonicdrone

thanks

yeah it was just the one flower

it is usually 5 flatly arranged petals

it was gifted to me by a customer at work who was growing tired of hauling it inside each winter

now i have to bend branches to get it through the doorway bringing it in for winter

smells great!

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dalmatiansoap
On 11/11/2020 at 6:58 AM, dalmatiansoap said:

Anyway,....

 

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Nothing to complain so fare :)

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Merlyn

So I now have two rooted and growing cuttings, they have been in 3g pots in full sun in the backyard all year, with no supplemental irrigation.  I was thinking of planting them, but I read that they don't like lots of water.  That would rule out my "tropical bed" that gets drenched by sprayers-on-a-stick every morning.  But do they need a "high and dry" area, or are they ok with any sunny spot that isn't swampy?

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24 minutes ago, Merlyn said:

So I now have two rooted and growing cuttings, they have been in 3g pots in full sun in the backyard all year, with no supplemental irrigation.  I was thinking of planting them, but I read that they don't like lots of water.  That would rule out my "tropical bed" that gets drenched by sprayers-on-a-stick every morning.  But do they need a "high and dry" area, or are they ok with any sunny spot that isn't swampy?

There in FL, i'd see Plumeria planted in everything from pretty dry and extremely rocky soil ( in Homestead ) to situated near a roadside canal that collected lots of water whenever it rained hard enough ( near my old apartment in Largo ) and near the beach on Longboat Key / Anna Maria  and they all did well..  I'd stick them somewhere in nearly full sun ( a little light shade in the afternoon is fine ) where you might water once a week ( if / when it doesn't rain ), except when dormant / growth greatly reduced ( typically in winter when they need no water )

Would bet you'll rarely have to water once established, unlike what has been my experience here.

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Kailua_Krish

They seem to grow fine in Hawaii even with our heavier rainfall during their dormant period. They do flower better in the dryer areas though.

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Merlyn

Thanks for the info!  I have a spot in front that's just out of range of some sprinklers-on-a-stick, and it's in a reasonably dry area that should work. 

I also just received a cutting of one I think is called "Pink Passion."  I'm not certain of the name, but the cycad collector said that he used to grow 100+ types of Plumeria and sold all but this one.  It is now nicely healed over and I'll toss it in a pot to root out.

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chinandega81

My experience is in Florida they do fine anywhere as long as they aren't in standing water or soggy soil. Even irrigated, the sandy soil drains well, so it isn't too much of an issue. The more water, the more vegetation and fewer flowers.

 

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PalmWarbler
On 2/24/2021 at 7:46 AM, subsonicdrone said:

has anyone ever seen a flower which looks like this one?

i found it about a month ago, it has the regular 5 petals plus some extras in the middle

the plant is indoors since the fall... mine has defoliated mostly as well.. hi dalmationsoap!

i included a pic from august when it was outside and growing nicely

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Could be an anomaly, many varieties put out 3-6 petals at times. Coloring looks a bit like Bali Whirl, the Plumeria world's only 10-pedal bloom. I've had one in my collection for 4 seasons now and this is the closest I've gotten to having a bloom open fully. They can be temperamental.

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20 minutes ago, PalmWarbler said:

Could be an anomaly, many varieties put out 3-6 petals at times. Coloring looks a bit like Bali Whirl, the Plumeria world's only 10-pedal bloom. I've had one in my collection for 4 seasons now and this is the closest I've gotten to having a bloom open fully. They can be temperamental.

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X2 ^ w/ " Bali Whril " ...or a seedling of it retained the double petaled form of that cultivar perhaps.. Have seen Aztec Gold and a couple other white / yellow flowering varieties occasionally produce flowers w/ an extra petal or two before.  Thought there were a couple other double petaled flowering Plumeria being sold now, but not 100% certain.  Honestly not a big fan of double/ triple flowered  ~ anything ~ esp Plumeria and Hibiscus.

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Tracy
10 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

X2 ^ w/ " Bali Whril " ...or a seedling of it retained the double petaled form of that cultivar perhaps.. Have seen Aztec Gold and a couple other white / yellow flowering varieties occasionally produce flowers w/ an extra petal or two before.  Thought there were a couple other double petaled flowering Plumeria being sold now, but not 100% certain.  Honestly not a big fan of double/ triple flowered  ~ anything ~ esp Plumeria and Hibiscus.

I've seen some deformed individual flowers pop out that have both an extra or one less petal than the normal flower the plant pushes.  My guess would be that the original flower in question was just as described earlier, an anomaly.

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Tracy

My wife got this as a little stick cutting at the Del Mar Fair many years ago, labeled as Hilo Beauty.  We eventually put it in the ground and it grew but no flowers.  Last summer I cut off a big branch because it was growing into my Pseudophoenix behind it, and rooted it.  We gave it to my son and his wife who live about 3-4 miles inland in Encinitas and of course we noticed flower buds on theirs already this summer with no buds on ours.  My wife has been checking and look what we finally found.  Granted flower buds are not success yet, but there is hope that it will finally produce a flower.

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On 9/15/2021 at 10:23 PM, Merlyn said:

So I now have two rooted and growing cuttings, they have been in 3g pots in full sun in the backyard all year, with no supplemental irrigation.  I was thinking of planting them, but I read that they don't like lots of water.  That would rule out my "tropical bed" that gets drenched by sprayers-on-a-stick every morning.  But do they need a "high and dry" area, or are they ok with any sunny spot that isn't swampy?

Meryln, as long as your soil is well draining and your plumeria are rooted, they will be fine.

I might be able to offer you some insight and help pay back all the palm questions I ask on here! I grow them on a somewhat smaller commercial scale and contrary to popular belief they respond favorably to daily watering. Having said that, my soil - like most of SE FL is very sandy so percolation is first rate. They will not tolerate their roots staying wet. Mud or standing water is the kiss of death.

As far as location in your yard, if you have to choose between morning or afternoon sun, choose afternoon. They respond much better with the warmer afternoon sun than plants with morning sun exposure. Afternoon sun = taller, fuller plants more leaves and more blooms.  A good, balanced slow-release fertilizer is a plus.

Your mileage may vary, but this recipe works very well for me.

Happy planting.

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subsonicdrone

after many attempts at rooting cuttings i was finally successful

its my proudest gardening accomplishment for this year :)

part of my success was keeping them indoors where the animals wont take off with them!

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Tracy
6 hours ago, subsonicdrone said:

part of my success was keeping them indoors where the animals wont take off with them!

I can see where that would lower your batting average.  Congratulations on your accomplishment.

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