pinnate metalica

[Steve Mac]

I have these 9 metalica seedlings that came from a pinnate mother and 'normal' bifid dad.

What are the chances of any of these being/going pinnate? 

I suppose that I should repot them or plant them out soon, mmm or maybe wait until spring.

[Steve Mac]

Here is the dad and mum,

and here are the kids,

Does this mean that I'm getting no pinnate from them, or could they split later? 

[wimmie]

Just wait and see.

[DoomsDave]

22 hours ago, gtsteve said:

Here is the dad and mum,

and here are the kids,

Does this mean that I'm getting no pinnate from them, or could they split later? 

I'm with @wimmiewait, see and enjoy whatever they become.

[Steve Mac]

Thanks guys for that advice but that is the least likely of my alternatives.

So nobody has grown pinnate Mets from seed?

If the next leaf is not pinnate I will just guerrilla plant them or give them away,

so that someone else can enjoy them, I have enough of them. 

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

2 hours ago, gtsteve said:

Thanks guys for that advice but that is the least likely of my alternatives.

So nobody has grown pinnate Mets from seed?

If the next leaf is not pinnate I will just guerrilla plant them or give them away,

so that someone else can enjoy them, I have enough of them. 

I'll buy some seedlings off you right now =) 

[Steve Mac]

I can't post them but you can pick some up for free. ;-) 

[Pal Meir]

I had only (many) kids from both pinnate parents:

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

22 hours ago, gtsteve said:

I can't post them but you can pick some up for free. ;-) 

If only it was that easy haha 

[Pal Meir]

According to my notes I had also kids from a bifid female with a pinnate male in 2001; here a pic of a (female) palm that is supposed to be a kid of those palms, taken in 2016 when it was 15 yr old:

[Steve Mac]

So Pal, do your notes indicate or do you remember how many leaves it took for your pinnate Mets to become pinnate from seed?

And were all of the pinnate X pinnate all pinnate, or did some revert to bifid?

And what was the ratio of offspring from your bifid female with a pinnate male in 2001.

I realize that such details may not still be available.

[Pal Meir]

1 hour ago, gtsteve said:

So Pal, do your notes indicate or do you remember how many leaves it took for your pinnate Mets to become pinnate from seed?

And were all of the pinnate X pinnate all pinnate, or did some revert to bifid?

And what was the ratio of offspring from your bifid female with a pinnate male in 2001.

I realize that such details may not still be available.

I am sorry, the only answer I can give is that the number of pinnae was smaller (6-8?) than of those which had both pinnate parents.

[Steve Mac]

Ok, thank you.

[Steve Mac]

Update. This is how long it takes to find out yourself.

Well 3 years later, they all survived, I gave two away already, undivided at that stage but you will notice that the big one at the back has finally thrown split leaves. These are all for give away. Free for pick up.

But to answer my own first question, it takes three years to know if a pinnate/bifid cross will be pinnate. But I am suspecting that they all will eventually.

 

On 12/11/2019 at 3:42 AM, wimmie said:

Just wait and see.

I took your advice  @wimmie.