palm ID Brownsville? Coconut maybe?

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

https://www.google.com/maps/@25.9236504,-97.4612499,3a,19.2y,336.89h,98.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR3vej8-l8gnu0KD8RyBzgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[Austinpalm]

I'm thinking maybe an Attalea.

[Really full garden]

It looks like a coconut with a flush of new fronds.

Edited April 24, 2019 by scottgt

[Silas_Sancona]

11 minutes ago, scottgt said:

It looks like a coconut with a flush of new fronds.

Would second Scott's thought.

[Xenon]

That's not a coconut. I agree with Attalea (even cooler!). Nice find. 

[The Gerg]

Personally I don’t know a lot about Attalea’s, but just by seeing the crown of leaves and nothing else this looks a lot like Beccariophoenix Alfredii to me. My young ones both have that drastic sideways bend to the leafs.

[Really full garden]

I would be more inclined to believe it is something other than a coconut if the rest of the garden had other more unusual palms . It does not. I find it odd that it is a random Beccariophoenix or Attalea sp. . "Exotic" palms are not easily available in the area, just a very basic pallet . This is not Florida .

Maybe someone from the area will chime in on this topic.......

[Xenon]

The crown, the fronds, the petioles...they're all "off" for a coconut. 

FWIW, Attalea butyracea is native about 200 miles to the south in southern Tamaulipas. 

[Zeeth]

I agree with Attalea. 

[GottmitAlex]

From what I have noticed is that a coconut's tallest leaves begin the curve from the middle of the rachis.  The palm in the pic seems to have the old leaves do that but not the newest.

In fact, it seems the curvature on these begin almost at the 1/4 of the way if not less from the tips.

 

 

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

yeah I didnt think it was a coconut after looking closer at it

[cfkingfish]

I also believe it is an Attalea butyracea. These are much hardier than a coconut and would likely do better there.

[awkonradi]

Pardon me for jacking this thread, but have Attalea hybrids with Butia or Jubaea been reported?  The phylogeny in the Attalea Wikipedia article places them closer to Butia and Jubaea, than is Syagrus.  From the looks of this palm, and other images on the Internet, I would think Butia or Jubaea hybrids could be magnificent.

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

On 4/25/2019 at 3:30 PM, awkonradi said:

Pardon me for jacking this thread, but have Attalea hybrids with Butia or Jubaea been reported?  The phylogeny in the Attalea Wikipedia article places them closer to Butia and Jubaea, than is Syagrus.  From the looks of this palm, and other images on the Internet, I would think Butia or Jubaea hybrids could be magnificent.

Attalea hybrid with Butia , Jubaea or even Syagrus would be really cool. 

[Merlyn]

Yeah that would be a pretty impressive hybrid!  Count me in for an Attalea-Butia hybrid if someone could figure out how to do it!  Cold hardiness, tropical humidity and rain tolerance and relatively good disease resistance all with hybrid growth speed...not to mention 30-40 foot long fronds, yikes!

I'd go along with the Attalea on the original post, possibly Cohune or Crassispatha based on my Thanksgiving trip to Fairchild.  Cohune seems to have less space between leaflets compared to the original photo, but it's probably cold hardy enough to survive there.

[Xenon]

1 hour ago, Merlyn2220 said:

I'd go along with the Attalea on the original post, possibly Cohune or Crassispatha based on my Thanksgiving trip to Fairchild.  Cohune seems to have less space between leaflets compared to the original photo, but it's probably cold hardy enough to survive there.

There are some big royals next door and even coconuts in the area, so it really hasn't seen any real cold (below 28F ish).  Still think it's A. butyracea, which is native just ~200 miles south. 

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

5 hours ago, Xenon said:

Still think it's A. butyracea, which is native just ~200 miles south. 

I agree looks alot like Attalea sp. to me too 

[oliver]

 

i will take a drive by there and try to get some better pictures. I haven't noticed it before.

[oliver]

It is definitely an Attalea. Funny that I've never noticed it before, but its on a street with heavy truck traffic and there's not much time to take in the scenery when driving that piece of road. When I took the pictures, the owner was out mowing the lawn. I asked him what it was, and he told me it was a "palm tree" Was there when he bought the house 10 years ago.

[Jeff985]

He’s not wrong. It is a palm tree. 

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

Definitely without a doubt an Attalea. Owner has no idea the gem he has haha 

[Merlyn]

No kidding!  With a bit of fertilizer and watering that could be a real botanical garden-quality specimen!

[awkonradi]

oliver, Thanks for checking this out for us!

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

On 12/13/2019 at 5:00 PM, oliver said:

It is definitely an Attalea. Funny that I've never noticed it before, but its on a street with heavy truck traffic and there's not much time to take in the scenery when driving that piece of road. When I took the pictures, the owner was out mowing the lawn. I asked him what it was, and he told me it was a "palm tree" Was there when he bought the house 10 years ago.

Thanks for checking it out. The mystery is solved. 

[Xerarch]

Wow, nice size trunk and everything. Yeah the owner has no idea. That’s happened to me more than once. You see a great specimen and or uncommon species, so you knock on the door and the owner has no idea what they have. That’s how spectacular palms get cut down. 

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

8 hours ago, Xerarch said:

Wow, nice size trunk and everything. Yeah the owner has no idea. That’s happened to me more than once. You see a great specimen and or uncommon species, so you knock on the door and the owner has no idea what they have. That’s how spectacular palms get cut down. 

Unfortunately your so right =/

[richtrav]

It is slowly coming back from last year’s big freeze, the owners finally trimmed up the dead foliage