Most Cold Hardy Butia?

[sevapalms]

1 hour ago, VA Jeff said:

I don't own the house anymore.  I dug up a few palms when I left.  I tried digging up more needles, unsuccessfully.  I had a few other butias at one time or another, but they all perished.  There is a stump of a chamaerops in the front that survived maybe a decade, but struggled often.  I was able to get queen palms and CIDPs through a few winters in makeshift plastic coverings, but lack of supplemental heat and high winds took there toll.

I have seen a few trunked palmettoes in Poquoson before, but I forget which road they were on.  I remember seeing minors on the way to Messick Point.  And then there is Grandview Beach, where you can occasionally see butias, but also huge agaves, if they're still around.

Thanks! I might try a queen or CIDP now too, with extra supplemental heating though. It’s interesting you got them to survive! I know there’s someone on here growing a queen in Virginia, but this gives me more confidence in trying them. My chamaerops died 2 years ago(unprotected in 2-5 degrees) but I might buy another one with my butia. That’s also good information for places to check and see what kinds of palms are surviving in the area after the winter of 2017-18. That will give me a good idea of long-term palms I can grow, given that I had some of the worst temperatures in my area in years. I know that a lot of plants were lost then, and even some traditionally grown plants like gardenias died back. Also, that’s unfortunate you lost some of the palms transplanting. Needles are probably hard to replace, given they are slow growers.

[buffy]

I wouldn't waste my time with a queen. Too much work in Virginia. Just an opinion. I've been doing this zone pushing thing for awhile. 

[sevapalms]

1 hour ago, buffy said:

I wouldn't waste my time with a queen. Too much work in Virginia. Just an opinion. I've been doing this zone pushing thing for awhile. 

I am definitely considering my options, so thanks for the opinion! A queen would be a lot of work, and thinking about it, I wouldn’t want to wrap up my palm for 3 months and not enjoy it. Especially when you have to make sure it isn’t rotting, baking because it’s too hot, etc. 

[buffy]

11 hours ago, sevapalms said:

I am definitely considering my options, so thanks for the opinion! A queen would be a lot of work, and thinking about it, I wouldn’t want to wrap up my palm for 3 months and not enjoy it. Especially when you have to make sure it isn’t rotting, baking because it’s too hot, etc. 

So like a BuJu or a JuBu would be a lot tougher and only need protection once or twice a season once they have some meat on them.

[sevapalms]

9 hours ago, buffy said:

So like a BuJu or a JuBu would be a lot tougher and only need protection once or twice a season once they have some meat on them.

Thanks! I now think I’m going to get one of those for a butia, given how hardy I’ve heard they are. Are they relatively slow or fast growers?

[buffy]

9 hours ago, sevapalms said:

Thanks! I now think I’m going to get one of those for a butia, given how hardy I’ve heard they are. Are they relatively slow or fast growers?

Variable speed. It just depends. Some are more vigorous than either parent some are in between. Some are slow like Jubaea. I'd go for the BuJu. 

[sevapalms]

1 hour ago, buffy said:

Variable speed. It just depends. Some are more vigorous than either parent some are in between. Some are slow like Jubaea. I'd go for the BuJu. 

Thanks! Given your input, and that butia x jubaea is more widely available from what I’ve seen, that’s probably going to be what I get.

[buffy]

Good luck amigo.

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

I have BxJ for sale in 1 gallons.  They are the hardiest feather leaf palm, period.

[sevapalms]

9 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

I have BxJ for sale in 1 gallons.  They are the hardiest feather leaf palm, period.

Are they listed on your website?

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Probably not. We don't advertise those very much because they sell so fast, much like larger T. Princeps.  

[sevapalms]

1 minute ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Probably not. We don't advertise those very much because they sell so fast, much like larger T. Princeps.  

Later today I may look into buying one. Do I email to get it?

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Please PM me.

[sevapalms]

2 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Please PM me.

Ok, sure! I’ll have to do it later in the afternoon though.

[buffy]

TexasColdHardyPalms grows good plants and packs them well.

[sevapalms]

12 hours ago, buffy said:

TexasColdHardyPalms grows good plants and packs them well.

I appreciate the input! I have decided I will probably buy palms later this year, and TCHP looks like a good source.