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Mini-California at 43 degrees S


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2 hours ago, sipalms said:

Pushing the boundaries of Cropping, with this pic.

Syagrus Romanzoffiana frond silloutted against snow capped peaks. Perhaps I should have taken this pic in July and the snow would have been near the bottom of the mountains.

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That is a spectacular pic mate, two different worlds in the same image!

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6 hours ago, sandgroper said:

That is a spectacular pic mate, two different worlds in the same image!

Cheers. There was some King palms just a few streets over, maybe I'll try get a similar pic of them, silhouetted against the snow... Contrasting worlds

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That does look like L.A. !!

 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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Sipalms, beautiful pics. One question: #7 pic from top, bushy round-crown thing on the right? Is that a palm? Might be a yucca. ?

Thanks, 

Ben

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6 minutes ago, Frond-friend42 said:

Sipalms, beautiful pics. One question: #7 pic from top, bushy round-crown thing on the right? Is that a palm? Might be a yucca. ?

Thanks, 

Ben

If it's the pic I'm thinking of, it'll be cordyline australis... A native, distant relative of the Joshua tree.

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1 hour ago, Frond-friend42 said:

Oh cool. Thanks for the speedy response. Yeah thats the one. Those are nice. Like them lots better than Ti plants. 

Remind me to get some habitat photos of cordylines sometime. They're pretty much a weed around here but in the right location they can look spectacular.

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Thank you for sharing these beautiful photos. Going to New Zealand is on my bucket list.  Compare some of the scenery in your photos to Tent Rocks on the Cochiti Pueblo here in New Mexico, USA! Very similar features.  Tent Rocks is famous for not only its views but the plentiful Apache Tears, small circular bits of obsidian , a result of the pyroclastic explosions from the local volcano from eons ago. 
 

https://www.blm.gov/programs/national-conservation-lands/new-mexico/kasha-katuwe-tent-rocks-national-monument

 

Tqke care,

Chris

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5 hours ago, ChrisA said:

Thank you for sharing these beautiful photos. Going to New Zealand is on my bucket list.  Compare some of the scenery in your photos to Tent Rocks on the Cochiti Pueblo here in New Mexico, USA! Very similar features.

Thank you. New Mexico is on my bucket list... The closest I've got is California and Texas. The Southwest USA definitely ticks all the boxes for me!

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A nice palmy back yard in Christchurch, mostly zone 9 palms. Very Cali-like.

The Archontophoenix (purpurea??) is still a relatively unusual find here.

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Is this a phoenix reclinata??

 

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Some more Queens nearby. Unfortunately, this is a terrible location for queens, with punishing onshore winds from the Pacific Ocean nearly year round - not dissimilar to the sunset districts of San Francisco for example.

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And finally, the New Zealand Christmas Tree / Pohutukawa / Metrosideros excelsa - coming up to Christmas day, these trees become increasingly brilliant in their colours. While relatively rare, and outside of their natural range here in the South Island, these are becoming pretty common as street trees in oceanside suburbs of Christchurch. The big old beauties found around Auckland and Northland are far more spectacular however.

This tree is a close relative of the Metrosiderosis Polymorpha of Hawai'i.

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23 hours ago, sipalms said:

A nice palmy back yard in Christchurch, mostly zone 9 palms. Very Cali-like.

The Archontophoenix (purpurea??) is still a relatively unusual find here.

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Is this a phoenix reclinata??

 

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That roughly Southshore area looking across to Redcliffs? Impressive to  find an Archontophoenix on the flat, albeit oceanside.

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10 hours ago, cbmnz said:

That roughly Southshore area looking across to Redcliffs? Impressive to  find an Archontophoenix on the flat, albeit oceanside.

It shore is!

What do y'all think, is the Archie in these pics a purpurea? Is purpurea supposed to be more hardy than the others Archies?

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I thought the Mt Lewis palm a little less hardy to frost as comes from North East Queensland. Depends on the altitude range it has though.

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On 12/13/2020 at 3:22 AM, sipalms said:

It shore is!

What do y'all think, is the Archie in these pics a purpurea? Is purpurea supposed to be more hardy than the others Archies?

I think it’s cunninghamiana with an older darker leaf boot not far off coming down. Some show a bit of colour tending towards blue or purple anyway. The real tell tale for purpurea is the white undersides to the leaf plus ramenta. Only purpurea has that combination. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tyrone said:

I think it’s cunninghamiana with an older darker leaf boot not far off coming down. Some show a bit of colour tending towards blue or purple anyway. The real tell tale for purpurea is the white undersides to the leaf plus ramenta. Only purpurea has that combination. 

Okay, I wondered whether that may have been the case. Thanks!

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Amazing shots! Similar performance of these plants to what we see in coastal Northern California but not at 42N!—more like up to 39N, at best. However, there's a spot on the southernmost Oregon coast, Brookings, where many of these plants can do well thanks to local topography, and it's just north of the 42N parallel. North of there, continental blasts and paltry summer warmth limit the use of tender plants to those tolerant of -7C.

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Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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Also having a run of small wildfires here at the moment. Temps aren't anything serious but rather dry. This one is happening right now.

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5 hours ago, sipalms said:

Also having a run of small wildfires here at the moment. Temps aren't anything serious but rather dry. This one is happening right now.

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Not good. Does NZ have the same style of unpaid fire brigade volunteers like Australia does?

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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7 hours ago, sipalms said:

Thanks @JasonD. By the way can you identify the phoenix species in there?

Im thinking reclinata myself. Maybe a few trunks have been removed as those things throw shoots everywhere, and the spines are probably one of the worst in Phoenix or the entire palm world.

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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On 12/11/2020 at 5:59 PM, sipalms said:

Some more Queens nearby. Unfortunately, this is a terrible location for queens, with punishing onshore winds from the Pacific Ocean nearly year round - not dissimilar to the sunset districts of San Francisco for example.

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This could be coastal southern Western Australia. Anywhere from Esperance to Geraldton I reckon.

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

Maybe a few trunks have been removed as those things throw shoots everywhere

Now you say it, it probably is, there was some odd looking phoenix shoots in other parts of the garden that looked as though they'd been transplanted...

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18 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

Not good. Does NZ have the same style of unpaid fire brigade volunteers like Australia does?

Yes precisely... And it isn't exactly the best thing, or east to coordinate, when you have a fire burning in more than one jurisdiction!!

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On 12/14/2020 at 8:35 PM, Tyrone said:

Im thinking reclinata myself. Maybe a few trunks have been removed as those things throw shoots everywhere, and the spines are probably one of the worst in Phoenix or the entire palm world.

Yes, reclinata vibe on that one.

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Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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Warning... No palms. Sorry to go off topic. This should really be in another forum thread. But I was in the interior of the South Island of New Zealand recently and the landscape reminded me of southwest USA. Here's a few photos I took en route... This is basically a high desert environment.

Can't you just picture some Washingtonia Filifera lurking in these gulches?!! These are some drone shots, so hard to get scale.

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The further west you go, the terrain gets higher until you get to the backbone of the South Island which is the Southern Alps. 

Mt Cook in the distance.

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Now to get back on topic ever so slightly - here's a three-pillared hollow trunked common Cordyline I found on the way back nearer to home... shows how hardy these things are!

They're a distant cousin of the Joshua Tree.

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Mate, New Zealand is stunning! You live in a beautiful part of the world, you don't need to exaggerate anything there. Fantastic!

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On 2/20/2019 at 8:56 PM, sipalms said:

Then heading inland, the temperature rises dramatically and the landscape becomes extremely dry, with the heat and dry air from the Fohn wind coming across the southern alps. The Waipara valley is an increasingly popular wine region.

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Honestly if I didn’t know any better I’d think I was looking at pics of Northern California. Very similar in appearance.

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