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Dypsis sp. Mayotte from Floribunda - 2 different plants to compare


Hilo Jason

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I know there have been several palms over the years sold as Dypsis Sp Mayotte. 

In my Hilo garden I am growing two different looking Dypsis Sp. Mayotte. Both were purchased from Floribunda where I am fortunate enough to go and pick out my own plants. I bought them just over a year ago as 4” plants. 

It’s been interesting to watch them grow and compare them to each other. 

If you have bought Dypsis Sp Mayotte from Floribunda, please post a photo(s) of yours. It would be great to see what others are looking like. 

I would imagine that one of mine is a hybrid, just not sure which one or what it could be crossed with. Lots of flowering Dypsis at Floribunda! 

Here are some pics:

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quite a bit different from this one:

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And here’s a picture of the parent plants that the seed comes from at Floribunda. 

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These are very fast palms!  The parent plants have grown quite a bit in the year I’ve been going to Floribunda and as I mentioned, mine were in 4” pots just over a year ago! 

Looking forward to seeing pictures of others out there. 

 

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7 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

I know there have been several palms over the years sold as Dypsis Sp Mayotte. 

In my Hilo garden I am growing two different looking Dypsis Sp. Mayotte. Both were purchased from Floribunda where I am fortunate enough to go and pick out my own plants. I bought them just over a year ago as 4” plants.  

It’s been interesting to watch them grow and compare them to each other. 

Jason, did you ever grow Dypsis mayotte in your Fallbrook garden and if so, how did that compare?  While I don't have a known Floribunda Dypsis mayotte I do have something which others have said looks like a Dypsis mayotte, seed source unknown.  The leaf form on mine looks more like your second plant, with very dark green leaflets.  No current photos, as the original stem died of pink rot not too long after I planted it.  I didn't dig up the root ball, and sometime in the following year a new growth point popped up.  Unfortunately, other things were planted around it when I thought it was dead, so it is hard to get a clean photo now.

33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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5 hours ago, Tracy said:

Jason, did you ever grow Dypsis mayotte in your Fallbrook garden and if so, how did that compare?  While I don't have a known Floribunda Dypsis mayotte I do have something which others have said looks like a Dypsis mayotte, seed source unknown.  The leaf form on mine looks more like your second plant, with very dark green leaflets.  No current photos, as the original stem died of pink rot not too long after I planted it.  I didn't dig up the root ball, and sometime in the following year a new growth point popped up.  Unfortunately, other things were planted around it when I thought it was dead, so it is hard to get a clean photo now.

Hey Tracy, yeah I had 2 "Sp. Mayotte" growing in my Fallbrook garden.  Both were purchased from JD Andersen.  One stayed solitary, the other threw one sucker and turned into a double.  I always wondered about the true identity of those palms in Fallbrook.  The solitary one looked similar to Pembana to me and grew very quickly, comparable to Pembana I was growing there in Fallbrook.  

Here's the Fallbrook Solitary Mayotte in 2011:

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And here it is in 2018:

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3 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

The solitary one looked similar to Pembana to me and grew very quickly, comparable to Pembana I was growing there in Fallbrook.  

Here's the Fallbrook Solitary Mayotte in 2011:

 

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Yes, I agree that one does look a lot like some of my solitary and even double Dypsis pembana.  Your Hilo plants seem to have more color on the stems & trunks.  Mine was purchased with no ID except Dypsis "lanceo-nada", a play on the spanish "nada".  It did resemble a lanceolata in some ways, yet had noticeable differences as well.  Both Josh Allen and Don Hodel asked me if when they saw it if it was a mayotte because I didn't have it marked.  So that's how I came up with D sp. mayotte as a possibility for mine.  Will be interesting to watch your two develop and see how much they resemble their Floribunda mother.

33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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I got that small one from you before you left and it has grown super fast. Plus it handles sun at an early age. Great palm. 

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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2 hours ago, LJG said:

I got that small one from you before you left and it has grown super fast. Plus it handles sun at an early age. Great palm. 

If I remember yours correctly from seeing it a few months ago, it resembles the first one I posted on here, right?  The one showing more orange / red color on it.  

Is it still solitary? 

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1 hour ago, Hilo Jason said:

If I remember yours correctly from seeing it a few months ago, it resembles the first one I posted on here, right?  The one showing more orange / red color on it.  

Is it still solitary? 

Correct. Still a single. 

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Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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50 minutes ago, Matt in OC said:

Here's mine from Floribunda. It was either a 4" or 1 gal. in early 2017.

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Thanks for posting those Matt. Looks like the second one I posted with the darker coloring on it. 

I remember when I picked mine out that there were several of each type available. I could tell from small 4” plants that they were different. Interesting to see them dispersed out into the palm world and maturing. 

I wish I knew which were the hybrids and which were true to the species. 

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22 hours ago, Matt in OC said:

Here's mine from Floribunda. It was either a 4" or 1 gal. in early 2017.

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Looks like it has been a decent grower for you in that period Matt.  Not super fast, but respectable growth in a pot for our So Cal climate!

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I just weeded and mulched the planter that has these Dypsis Sp. Mayottes so though I would post updated pictures. 

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Both of them: 

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Planted from 4” pots about 18 months ago. In between them (in the back) is a Crytostachys that I was hoping was a hybrid but it’s so slow that I’m thinking it’s C. Elegans. 

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This image is my palm sold as D. mayotte growing on a western exposure in our garden.

The palm was planted as a five gallon approximately ten years ago and is now flowering.

There are three stems the largest of which is approx 15’ tall at the meristem.

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Jeffry Brusseau

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Vista, California

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Thought I would post an update as I was in the garden yesterday, peeled off an old leaf base and was surprised to see a sucker coming out of the 2nd ring of trunk on one of the Mayottes:

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entire plant:

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and here’s an updated photo of the other version:

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Just noticed a sucker now also growing out of the other Dypsis Mayotte that up until this point was solitary. 

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And here’s the other that pushed out a sucker earlier this year. I was going to carefully remove it but decided to let it grow and see what it turns into.

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and a photo of both versions:

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Both palms are very fast although they have slowed down now with this new suckering growth. I like both but am preferring the one on the right of the above photo with thicker leaflets and more orange coloring on the crown. 

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Definitely prefer the one on the right as well.  Hope my two will turn out like yours, Jason.

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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14 hours ago, joe_OC said:

Definitely prefer the one on the right as well.  Hope my two will turn out like yours, Jason.

Do you have a picture of yours? If so, please post.  

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10 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

Do you have a picture of yours? If so, please post.  

Will do, when things dry out a bit.

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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On 12/12/2019 at 2:08 PM, joe_OC said:

Here are my two...

Jason- Can you tell which version they are?

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I would say it looks like the smaller of the two that I have. The one that has a bit more of a Cabadae look to it.  Looking good. 

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Here is what I bought as Dypsis Mayotte from Josh Allen in March this year. I planted it right away and it’s very fast. The 2 new growth rings have occurred since I planted it. I had a little D Mayotte from Dooms Dave, Florabunda, that I planted along with it and you can really see the difference in color between the orange sucker of the large one and the blueish little one behind it. It will be interesting to see how they grow together.

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On 12/15/2019 at 7:05 AM, mwardlow said:

Here is what I bought as Dypsis Mayotte from Josh Allen in March this year. I planted it right away and it’s very fast. The 2 new growth rings have occurred since I planted it. I had a little D Mayotte from Dooms Dave, Florabunda, that I planted along with it and you can really see the difference in color between the orange sucker of the large one and the blueish little one behind it. It will be interesting to see how they grow together.

 

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Thanks for posting. Looking good. 

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