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I'm starting to think these coconuts may make it to maturity especially if the long range forecast holds. Z9b Orlando. 

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Looks promising, as long as the landscapers don't trim them off. Isn't that the one that survived 2010?

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Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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15 minutes ago, Zeeth said:

Looks promising, as long as the landscapers don't trim them off. Isn't that the one that survived 2010?

Based on Google maps, I think this was planted 2016 or 2017. It took a hit in 2018 but recovered quickly. I am not aware of any that survived 2010...maybe the Bob Marley restuarant one which is well protected due to siting. 

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1 hour ago, pj_orlando_z9b said:

Based on Google maps, I think this was planted 2016 or 2017. It took a hit in 2018 but recovered quickly. I am not aware of any that survived 2010...maybe the Bob Marley restuarant one which is well protected due to siting. 

I looked into it, and this is the coconut I was thinking of. It was planted sometime in 2008-2009, and was heavily damaged in 2010 (there are pictures here on PT, but I couldn't find them). Look at the trunk and you'll notice a big scar from that freeze right at about the rain gutter level.

Here's a picture from May 2010 on Google Earth. I've circled the (heavily damaged) coconut:

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Here's a picture from November 2011, you can see how well it had recovered by that point:

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Based on the growth characteristics, it's likely a green Malayan, but it may be an F2 Maypan with tendency toward the Malayan characteristics. 

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Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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I’m not too surprised it survived 2010 since the building offers a good deal of protection. A few adonidia in N Tampa managed to survive the same way.

Westchase | 9b 10a  ◆  Nokomis | 10a  ◆  St. Petersburg | 10a 10b 

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I just went by the 2 Cocos at the restaurant across from Fashion Square Mall. One is holding a few coconuts. 

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Orlando, FL

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17 hours ago, Zeeth said:

I looked into it, and this is the coconut I was thinking of. It was planted sometime in 2008-2009, and was heavily damaged in 2010 (there are pictures here on PT, but I couldn't find them). Look at the trunk and you'll notice a big scar from that freeze right at about the rain gutter level.

Here's a picture from May 2010 on Google Earth. I've circled the (heavily damaged) coconut:

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Here's a picture from November 2011, you can see how well it had recovered by that point:

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Based on the growth characteristics, it's likely a green Malayan, but it may be an F2 Maypan with tendency toward the Malayan characteristics. 

Good find. When I looked at street view it jumped from 2008 to 2016. I thought it was 2015 to 2016. That's great it has been there so long.

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16 hours ago, Eric in Orlando said:

I just went by the 2 Cocos at the restaurant across from Fashion Square Mall. One is holding a few coconuts. 

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Awesome. The one on the right was down to 1 frond a few months after the freeze. Nice recovery!

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On 1/29/2019 at 3:04 PM, Eric in Orlando said:

I just went by the 2 Cocos at the restaurant across from Fashion Square Mall. One is holding a few coconuts. 

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These are pics of the same palms on 4/21/18. I thought the right one was a goner. 

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There are two coconuts on the South side of Orlando I've been keeping an eye on.  They are ~8-10 feet overall, one looks like a dwarf green Maypan due to the broad frond span at it's current height.  The other is a golden type of some sort, I think a Red Spicata but it could be a golden Malayan.  It was throwing new fronds quick until our first cold front in December.  Both still look very good, with only minor leaflet tip burn.  Neither appear to be growing spear length since December.  Both were sheltered by 6' tall brick walls and close to the houses in small backyards.

There are two more that I need to drive past again.  They were similar golden types but I think the more common types.  They are planted out in the open at a small store and had 30% burn on the December 12th cold front, but I haven't checked them after the January 21st cold night.  Weather.com has the 12th at 41F and the 21st at 39F in SE Orlando.

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23 hours ago, Merlyn2220 said:

There are two coconuts on the South side of Orlando I've been keeping an eye on.  They are ~8-10 feet overall, one looks like a dwarf green Maypan due to the broad frond span at it's current height.  The other is a golden type of some sort, I think a Red Spicata but it could be a golden Malayan.  It was throwing new fronds quick until our first cold front in December.  Both still look very good, with only minor leaflet tip burn.  Neither appear to be growing spear length since December.  Both were sheltered by 6' tall brick walls and close to the houses in small backyards.

There are two more that I need to drive past again.  They were similar golden types but I think the more common types.  They are planted out in the open at a small store and had 30% burn on the December 12th cold front, but I haven't checked them after the January 21st cold night.  Weather.com has the 12th at 41F and the 21st at 39F in SE Orlando.

Which part of town are these located? The 2 you describe sound like the ones at a house just N of 408. Here is mine this morning. It's about 6 feet to the lowest frond. The lower fronds are damaged/deformed fronds growing out from the 2018 freeze damage. Mine has slowed but not stopped growing. Typically I get 1 frond per winter. I'm near 528. 

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2 hours ago, pj_orlando_z9b said:

Which part of town are these located? 

Yours looks great!  Hopefully no more cold snaps this year, at least not below 40!  I forgot, what kind is yours?

The coconuts I'm thinking of are down near Kissimmee, one is at the corner of Wyndham Lakes Blvd and Rhode Island Woods.  You can see it peeking over the fence just under the road sign:

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The other is along E. Osceola Parkway a bit West of Simpson Road.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.3460173,-81.3449597,3a,75y,149.06h,95.64t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sgTU1BPtQ5cbHq9CAmG_RYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i36

The two I haven't looked at are at the corner of E. Carrol St and 527, at a place called the "Hindu Center."  The Google maps pic shows just dirt, but there's a small paved parking lot now and a couple of coconuts here:

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2 hours ago, Merlyn2220 said:

Yours looks great!  Hopefully no more cold snaps this year, at least not below 40!  I forgot, what kind is yours?

The coconuts I'm thinking of are down near Kissimmee, one is at the corner of Wyndham Lakes Blvd and Rhode Island Woods.  You can see it peeking over the fence just under the road sign:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.3610148,-81.3498471,3a,75y,334.69h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLy5SOTRH3p4UDRkQkXI3Jg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The other is along E. Osceola Parkway a bit West of Simpson Road.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.3460173,-81.3449597,3a,75y,149.06h,95.64t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sgTU1BPtQ5cbHq9CAmG_RYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i36

The two I haven't looked at are at the corner of E. Carrol St and 527, at a place called the "Hindu Center."  The Google maps pic shows just dirt, but there's a small paved parking lot now and a couple of coconuts here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.3260467,-81.3992683,3a,75y,269.68h,88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s57k43bqndpiE5vyIqH4JLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Thanks. I always like to see the results of the varying coconuts around Orlando. I don't know the type I have for certain but as it matures, all characteristics point to a Maypan. 

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Here's photos of all three.  The Hindu Center pair I took on 12/10/18 just before the first cold front on the 12th.  I've been past there since, and there was a lot of burn but they looked like they'd survive.  The other two pics are from yesterday and the 18th, but neither showed any sign of damage.  Looking at the biggest of the three, I wonder now if it's a Beccariophoenix and not a coconut?  If so it's fairly old.  I'll have to try to get a better photo without the oak tree in front of it...

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Nice finds. I'm surprised to hear any had significant damage from 1 night in the upper 30s. The 2 in the 2nd pic look exactly like mine...I still think they're Maypans. The 3rd very well could be beccariophoenix. The dark green droopy fronds. 

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The pair were planted over the summer and always looked kinda scraggly in person.  They are definitely potassium deficient and probably planted too high.  I have a pair of potassium-deficient spindles that were "rescues" and were just barely starting to look okay in November.  They both took significant damage in the mid 30s, where they should be pretty solid at least to freezing.  4 bottle palms less than 10 feet away were totally untouched, so bad health/nutrition definitely makes a difference on cold damage.  I can see how that pair of coconuts burned a bit in the upper 30s, probably just because of poor siting and health.

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Can't understand a word these two blokes are saying but growing coconuts is a lot different to growing lemons.

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On 2/1/2019 at 9:24 PM, Merlyn2220 said:

The pair were planted over the summer and always looked kinda scraggly in person.  They are definitely potassium deficient and probably planted too high.  

I stopped at lunch and took photos of the coconut pair at the Hindu Center and the one along Osceola Parkway.  The pair have definitely improved, with a lot more green in the leaves instead of pale yellow.  I'd guess around 30% leaf tip burn at most.  I can't ID the two, but the right one is definitely a golden type.

The Osceola one still looks really nice, with a bit of tip burn but very healthy color.  I think the droopy frond on the right was just from some of the high winds we saw a few weeks ago.

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Hey guys just wanted to give an update on the coconut palm by Charlie’s restaurant on idrive 

Here’s some pics I took in early April :)

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Amazing, a totally different place than Orlando of the 1980’s. 

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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5 hours ago, Bryanr04 said:

Hey guys just wanted to give an update on the coconut palm by Charlie’s restaurant on idrive 

Here’s some pics I took in early April :)

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Its very nice even compared with a lot of tropical grown coconuts. Nice photography as well

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18 hours ago, Bryanr04 said:

Hey guys just wanted to give an update on the coconut palm by Charlie’s restaurant on idrive 

Here’s some pics I took in early April :)

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Woah, it's amazing. What a beauty! Does anyone know how old it is? An estimation would be enough. It's huuuge already! Is this the biggest coconut in Orlando?

I live in Altea, Spain 38°34'N 0º03'O. USDA zone 11a. Coastal microclimate sheltered by mountains. 
The coconuts shown in my avatar are from the Canary Islands, Spain ! :)

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6 hours ago, Alicante said:

Woah, it's amazing. What a beauty! Does anyone know how old it is? An estimation would be enough. It's huuuge already! Is this the biggest coconut in Orlando?

It was planted in mid-2008 I believe from the street view.  The front of the building was redone between July and October in 2008.

July 2008:

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October 2008:

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