After reading through at least 15 different threads about the Arenga Micrantha, I am still a little uncertain on locating a pair of very tall Arenga Micrantha on my lot. I posted a similar question on the end of a thread by @Eric in Orlando but it is necro-bumping an 8+ year old thread. Here's links to a variety of informative threads on this palm:
In Gainesville at UFL they planted a 4-5 foot in between some shrubberies, but it's not clear how much daily sun it sees. It died after the 2018 January freezes, but it's not clear why: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/41798-mccarty-hall-palm-garden-at-the-university-of-florida-update-2008-2014-some-before-and-after-pics/&
Leu Gardens has a couple in "high tree canopy with bright but filtered light." I didn't see them when I visited in November, hopefully they are still ok! https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/19917-arenga-micrantha-tibetan-sugar-palm/
@richnorm has a flowering one in New Zealand, apparently in full sun and has been ok for leaf burn and low temps of -5C/23F. I'm not sure about the humidity there, but the sun angle is about 10 degrees lower than the Orlando area so it's not as intense. https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/15074-arenga-micrantha/&tab=comments#comment-264964
@Phoenikakias had a pretty big one in 2013, and it grew well in temps over 100F every day as long as it got a lot of water: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/35440-my-arenga-micrantha/&tab=comments#comment-557815
@Sandy Loam had a large but very lazy one with some good discussion and photos here: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/45063-why-does-arenga-micrantha-insist-on-lying-down-horizontally-against-the-ground/&amp
@Albey found a nice clump growing at a botanical garden in New Zealand: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/55912-arenga-micrantha-at-43°-south/&tab=comments#comment-838192
@steve 9atx had a nice one growing in Houston with 6 hours of unshaded mid-day sun, so it can take some strong sun along with high humidity: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/4571-arenga-micrantha/&amp
@Brahea Axel had some really nice ones back in 2013: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/37978-which-is-nicer-a-engleri-or-a-micrantha/&amp
So after all the background above, I had this palm on my "to buy" list along with an Arenga Pinnata. It's like a cold-tolerant and not deadly spiky version! A local Palmtalker had two for sale and I picked them up on Sunday. One is around 8' tall and the other is probably 12-14' tall. Both are 3-4 leaf plants with very small suckers. They were growing in moderate shade and I'm trying to figure out the best spot in my lot for them. From the above threads I concluded that they grow best in Central FL (just NW of Orlando) in filtered light with PM shade and a consistent source of water. I'd like to get these in the ground ASAP, and have 4 possible locations for them:
SE corner in the summer gets filtered sun all day, but gets lots of sun in the winter, especially in the afternoon. SW corner in the summer has direct AM sun but is shaded by oaks by about 1pm. It has winter AM filtered sun and PM direct sun. NE corner in the summer has filtered AM sun but quite a bit of direct mid-afternoon sun, and is filtered most of the winter. E side of the house, direct sun all year until just after noon, then shaded by the house. Is sounds like direct sun in the winter might not be a big problem, but direct afternoon sun in the summer could be a death sentence. I have available drip irrigation in all spots, so a consistent water supply isn't a problem. The soil is probably 50/50 sand and decomposed oak leaves. Any thoughts on the above for locations to avoid?
By Cindy Adair
See the following for the story if you like. These photos are from Day 1.
From the ever changing collection inside Fairchild's glasshouse.
I have a two spots at the corner of the front walkway that I'm trying to fill, and so far haven't been happy with the results. I was pretty happy with the young pygmy date doubles in the below photo, and then my neighbor gave me three mature 8' tall doubles and triples. You can see part of one on the left side of the below photo. So now I'm looking to replace the pygmy doubles with something bigger and pinnate. Off to the left of the photo I have a 3' OA silver Bismarck, and the Sylvester is a new planting. Behind the Sylvester is an Adonidia triple that probably won't survive tomorrow's cold front, and off to the right are a couple of 10' OA Livistona Chinensis. For a size reference the walkway is 11' wide at the end. I wouldn't mind covering up part of the walkway with fronds, but I wouldn't want to cover up the whole thing or make it too difficult or annoying to walk out the front door! I might extend the right side of the flower bed over to go around the Sylvester, but I haven't decided yet.
This location gets full sun from about 10-4pm all year. I'm not fixated on keeping something alive in this spot in the worst winters (25F and sometimes lower) but it would be nice to have it survive a "normal" winter where we have an occasional light freeze. This spot has direct NW wind exposure and no canopy, so there is really no protection.
I've decided that I want something bigger, but not huge. I could easily go up to around 8 feet diameter, though I'd definitely have to move that a bit away from the walkway and driveway. I'm envisioning something pinnate and recurving, sort of like a bottle palm. I have a couple of young Chambeyronia Macrocarpa that I could put there, or pick up a pair of dwarf Green Maypan coconuts. All three of those are in the "might survive an easy winter" category, but the coconut and flamethrowers would eventually get way too big for the spot...if they lived long enough! Others I've thought about are the Dypsis Pembana (small enough to stay there), Ptychosperma Macarthurii and Dictyosperma Album/Rubrum (both eventually way too big). My wife *really* likes coconuts. I might have to plant a couple there, even if they end up being annuals.
Throw out some suggestions! I'm having writer's...er...I mean palm block!
So I’m up in Florida for a few days with not much to do. I was thinking about going on a palm/plant seed hunt. Looking for stuff like Bismark, Latans, cool fan palms, plants too, odd var. of gingers tropical, hardy low-mid maintainance anything that may be a little out of the ordinary and will grow in Jamaica..
I’m willing to drive around and have been doing so tagging spots that look laden with seeds. My question to everyone is there anywhere that may have a few species in one location. Not necessarily just palms either as I’m venturing into some landscaping projects as well so fillers, hedges ect.
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Why are Kenta so hard to find in Florida? For a palm that is supposed to be bulletproof as an indoor plant...you would think every box store on the planet would have them. Would be nice to get a small 1 gallon size cheaply. Can you buy them that size cheaply out West?