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Dypsis decaryi growth effects of too much shade

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My wife entered a raffle at our local YMCA and won a pair of almost identical 1 gallon Dypsis decaryi a couple of years back.  I decided to plant one in my new garden's front yard, with aloes, cycads and other plants which would appreciate westerly exposure and late afternoon sunlight.  The other one I held onto in a pot a little longer before planting where I had extracted my Encephalartos horridus x woodii, which I wanted to transplant to my new home.  The spot in the older garden gets some shade now from more mature palms near it.  While it gets mid-day sun in mid-summer in the old garden, its basically filtered shade most of the rest of the year and other times of day. 

Now for the comparison in plants below.... pretty amazing.  I can blame a little on the delayed planting as well as a difference in soil (clay in Carlsbad, sandy in Leucadia).  So the lesson is that if you want a beefy triangle, give it sun.  If you like the anorexic look, go with shade.

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BS Man about Palms

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Tracy
8 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

:bemused:

????  :D

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Stevetoad

What are the 3 trunks in the background? Wodyetia?

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Josue Diaz

Wow those a very different from each other. Full sun it is! 

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Tracy
14 hours ago, Stevetoad said:

What are the 3 trunks in the background? Wodyetia?

My neighbor's triple planting of Archontophoenix cunninghamiana.

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enigma99

Huge difference.. also, your D. Decipiens is looking good. 

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tejas1978

This is in my brothers back yard, planted as a 15 gallon about 6 or 7 yrs ago. Part sun

 

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6 hours ago, tejas1978 said:

This is in my brothers back yard, planted as a 15 gallon about 6 or 7 yrs ago. Part sun

They can be fast.  Here is what the one in Leucadia looked like shortly after I planted it on 9/15/2015.  I probably kept it in a pot for close to 6 months or even longer before I planted it, so it was a healthy overgrown 1 gallon bursting it's pot when planted.  Not bad growth in 3 years 2 months.

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Palm Tree Jim

Way back when.....my triangle was in full sun and grew fast.

Until it developed rot and died.

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Tracy
On 12/1/2018, 6:52:19, Palm Tree Jim said:

Way back when.....my triangle was in full sun and grew fast.

Until it developed rot and died.

I hope I don't have a repeat of that in the Carlsbad location.  I planted two shortly after moving into that house about 22 years ago that were good size (15 gallons) but lost both to rot.  I didn't have as much experience growing (and killing) palms back then.  It is probable that I over watered them in the clay soil.  I can't help wondering what they would look like today if I hadn't killed them.

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