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True Phoenix Reclinata or a hybrid?

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paquicuba

Have a few "Phoenix Reclinatas" that I grew from seeds that a friend of mine gave me a couple of years ago. He swears that they're true to type, but after reading how easy they can get hybridize, I would like please an expert opinion (see attached images)

Thanks so much!

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UK_Palms

I can't say for sure, but it looks like it has some Canariensis in there. Then again, it may actually be a pure Reclinata. It's still a bit young to tell, but you will have a better idea in the coming years. 

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Cikas

It looks different than mine. 

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kinzyjr

Most (if not all) of them in Florida are hybrids.

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paquicuba

Thanks a lot for your comments. I have one of them in the ground, so I'll follow up with you in a couple of years. B)

 

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JubaeaMan138

Would expect to see more suckering if it was pure reclinata right?

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Pal Meir

The fronds of Ph reclinata are flatter, the leaflets are more in one plain. Your palm looks more like a Ph canariensis.

Here for comparison a typical Ph reclinata of similar size:

5bedeb795539c_Phoenixreclinata2006-09-15

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Kris

Yes,even i thought i looks more like a regular CIDP.Since that dark greenish leaf colour is seen in canary and Rupi.

The leaf frond arches and its tempered look make it appear like a Canary date palm.

As you increase the pot size or plant it in the ground,all its characteristic features would become more pronounced.

Love,

Kris.

 

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DoomsDave

I would almost say that's a pure CIDP, based on the plumose leaves, dark dark green coloration and lack of suckers.

Time will tell, let us know!

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paquicuba
On 11/15/2018, 4:57:04, Pal Meir said:

The fronds of Ph reclinata are flatter, the leaflets are more in one plain. Your palm looks more like a Ph canariensis.

Here for comparison a typical Ph reclinata of similar size:

5bedeb795539c_Phoenixreclinata2006-09-15

Yours seems to be a true Reclinata. After some research, I definitely have a hybrid. I know for sure that I collected the seeds from a multi-trunk palm that looks like a Reclinata, so at this point, I have no clue what I have, but it shouldn't be a Canariensis either. 

I copied this from junglemusic.net:

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Cool Ritchie

Good afternoon. 

A question for the person that started the conversation; paquicuba  or anyone who may know. So are the seeds from these date palms the yellowish thing that pops open this time of the year? How many seeds did you have to plant to grow one tree? There is a  palm tree here in center Florida I love. I think it's a hybridized Phoenix Reclinata.  I can't seem to find any small ones for sale. Here are a couple of pics. My email is fayette9@hotmail.com  I don't have ID to this forum so please email me.  Thank you very much for any assistance.

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Cool Ritchie

Good evening.

Here are the photos of the palm tree I'm trying to figure out what type of hybrid it is. I see Phoenix Reclinata and Sylvester crossed. Any advise or comment is very much appreciated.

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Cool Ritchie

Just adding photo

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