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These guys love to be fertilized with salt (NaCl). Yes, salt!

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GottmitAlex
1 hour ago, sonoranfans said:

The phillipines commercial growing method for coconuts for coconut water might be greatly benefitted $$ by the additional sugar production the addition of salt gives.  It could be that, and not the growth rate of biomass that encourages the use of salt.  Coconut water is the top $ product from cocos.   Any time you can adjust sugar in any fruit its going to sell.  None of these cocos look any better than a neighbors (down the street) who uses palm gain only, no salt and almost no soil prep.   In their preferred envronment cocos are easy, one of the easiest.  Perhaps the salt treatment its a sweetener method and perhaps it helps adapt cocos to areas where they normally dont thrive.  Coconuts are among the most salt tolerant palms, they grow on the beach.  Im betting salt is a big deterrent to nematodes and other parasites.  Plants that are highly dependent on Mycorhizal fungi tend not to do well with salinity.   If growth rate increases with salt addition it might be explained by killing bad bugs, but it sure doesnt help nutrition for most plants, it screws up the ratios of major nutrients.  I dont grow cocos, and I'm sure not putting salt on the roots of my palms.  Read the article in the link.

 

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2019.00470/full

Great article.

I have never advocated for use of salt in any palm other than Cocos nucifera.

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GottmitAlex

Oh gosh, I'll add this (against my better judgment):

I do not think it's about bugs nor fungi. 

Lastly, my neighbors do not have coconut palms. And the coconuts in my region, imho, do not look as nice as these:

I'll leave it at that: Salt

 

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Mr. Coconut Palm
On 10/17/2019 at 10:49 AM, sonoranfans said:

The phillipines commercial growing method for coconuts for coconut water might be greatly benefitted $$ by the additional sugar production the addition of salt gives.  It could be that, and not the growth rate of biomass that encourages the use of salt.  Coconut water is the top $ product from cocos.   Any time you can adjust sugar in any fruit its going to sell.  None of these cocos look any better than a neighbors (down the street) who uses palm gain only, no salt and almost no soil prep.   In their preferred envronment cocos are easy, one of the easiest.  Perhaps the salt treatment its a sweetener method and perhaps it helps adapt cocos to areas where they normally dont thrive.  Coconuts are among the most salt tolerant palms, they grow on the beach.  Im betting salt is a big deterrent to nematodes and other parasites.  Plants that are highly dependent on Mycorhizal fungi tend not to do well with salinity.   If growth rate increases with salt addition it might be explained by killing bad bugs, but it sure doesnt help nutrition for most plants, it screws up the ratios of major nutrients.  I dont grow cocos, and I'm sure not putting salt on the roots of my palms.  Read the article in the link.

 

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2019.00470/full

Why don't you grow cocos?

John

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sonoranfans

I grow beccariophoenix alfredii instead of cocos.  I like them better, and they are far more cold tolerant(5-7F?) and grow a more vibrant green color here.  Cocos last 10-15 years here then get hit with a big cold and die.   Every person has their preferences with palms.  I actually like some big fan palms much more than cocos, and I know they wont suddenly die from a cold front, a big dead palm one day.

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Silas_Sancona
3 hours ago, sonoranfans said:

I grow beccariophoenix alfredii instead of cocos.  I like them better, and they are far more cold tolerant(5-7F?) and grow a more vibrant green color here.  Cocos last 10-15 years here then get hit with a big cold and die.   Every person has their preferences with palms.  I actually like some big fan palms much more than cocos, and I know they wont suddenly die from a cold front, a big dead palm one day.

Agree w/ Tom.. a personal preference for sure, but like the look of Beccariophoenix more than Coconuts, and they're hardier.. and can be grown, with less potential hassles, in more places. Also really liking the look of well grown Ravena rivularis. If I ever have enough space to plant a grove of them, that looks even half as nice as pictures posted by another member here awhile back ..AND.. be able to throw in some B. Aflies ( or whichever sp. ) in that same grove,  that plenty of that "coco-nutty look"  for me.  No salt needed either. 

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GottmitAlex

This is that month...

(I apply salt every other month)

 

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Salt does help, inland.

 

 

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