Borassus Fruits...

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I have just peeled and trimmed mine and have been soaking them in water for the past couple days...  I would have taken photos along the way but they are soooooo messy!    How long do these beauties take to germinate?  

[Kom Thai Palm]

Hello PiousPalms,

My one takes only 1 week to starting germinate.

[Kris]

Dear Komikrit  

one question to you,how long can the dried seeds remain

viable,that is for how many months can i keep these seeds

alive without using it.

and does these seeds germinate after socking like regular

palms seeds or used directly in potting medium(deep root

trainers) ?

need information on this tequnik please !  

Thanks & Love,

Kris  

[Kris]

Dear William  

Thanks for joining in and those stills are great.but i feel more

fruity portion is still left on it.since nogets kind of worms will

grow if that yellow fruit flesh is sticking to it.that is the case here in the hot tropics !

and now lets have some visuals of the cleaning process....

[Kris]

the waste bin is full of hair like fibers which has fruity portion still sticking to it and is smelling sweet as a mango..

and here are the visuals...

[Kris]

Now after cleaning or shaving the seeds !  

i have allowed it to air dry in normal room temperatures and its around 94 to 96 degrees farenheat inside our house..

now to the visuals..

[Kom Thai Palm]

(krisachar @ Jun. 18 2007,10:14)

QUOTE

Dear Komikrit  

one question to you,how long can the dried seeds remain

viable,that is for how many months can i keep these seeds

alive without using it.

and does these seeds germinate after socking like regular

palms seeds or used directly in potting medium(deep root

trainers) ?

need information on this tequnik please !  

Thanks & Love,

Kris  

Dear Kris,

It may be 2-3 months or more  Up to where you place them. I'm concerning that it may not loss viability, but loss keepability. This strong palm will sprout before you do anything with them. This is my 2 months borassus fruit, I place them on open air cement ground and forgot it till you question me

[Kom Thai Palm]

(krisachar @ Jun. 19 2007,09:51)

QUOTE

Dear William  

Thanks for joining in and those stills are great.but i feel more

fruity portion is still left on it.since nogets kind of worms will

grow if that yellow fruit flesh is sticking to it.that is the case here in the hot tropics !

and now lets have some visuals of the cleaning process....

Kris, Nice cleaning job!!

And thanks for your pictures, those make me feel you have spent more hard work to clear all those fiber

I have ever done one and so difficult

[Kris]

Dear Komikrit  

Thanks for the information & beautiful visuals on palmera seeds germination....

thanks & Love,

Kris  

[Kris]

[Kris]

this solitary palmera is seen in marina beach in madras !

and i used see this palm daily while going for morning

running. here is the still of that Palm..with Kris standing next to it  

[Kris]

Dear Friends  

kindly see these stills in this post and the following and tell me

have you noticed anything different,both the stills are of local palmera tree seeds but their is something very different and i want to see can you identify that feature...

here are the visuals & more yet to come,but need time down sizing it !  

[Kris]

Iam shure borassus.F fans will know what iam saying...?

[Gileno Machado]

Number 2 & 3 have gone to the hairdresser?  

Mine here all look like number 1 !

[Gileno Machado]

Nice picture of you and the palmera, Kris...

Where's everybody else on the beach? A billion people in India and nobody goes to the beach in Madras?

[M@ximus]

Different   size?

Ciao  Kris!!!

[Kris]

Dear Gileano  

You never fail to amaze me with your jovial attitute,i like you for that.and as for the beach the time was around 5.30 A.M

and people only walk in the pathway which is not covered in that still.and only in the evenings 6.00P.M on wards old &

senoir citizens and few lovers visit this beach and talk & talk...

while in the morning brisk walking,jogging & running is quite common here.

thanks & Love,

Kris  

[Kris]

(M@ximus @ Aug. 09 2007,15:36)

QUOTE

Different   size ?

Ciao  Kris!!!

Dear Max  

You are right i have never come across such huge looking

fruit and also so big seeds.very heavy....Duty !

and other new thing i came across is usually in a fruit sack

there are 3 matured seeds.but now i saw that a palmera

variety gives specificially 1 seed,2 seeds,3seeds & 4 seeds.

but 4 & 3 seeds at times overlap...meaning a tree borning a

3 seeded fruit might ocassionally produce 4 seeds and vise-versa..

And comming to the size of 4 seeds the fruit is of the size of a normal football,and like wise the trunk size is big and i was told by the villager that on a hot sunny afternoon the

palm tree shines in its blackiness!

3 seeded variety of the bigger built has the same above qualification.and 2 and 1 thought iam yet to receive

seeds from those trees.

and all the bigger seeded varities are comming from neighbouring states of south india.and smell of these ripe

fruits are so sweet they give severe headache when smelt

more than half an hour or so.i wish the italians & french

must make a perfume of that aroma to faint people..

so glarring it is...

And Dear Max i will inform you about the happenings on the borassus front.even iam learning a lot what just started as

a cruiouscity it has become an obssesion to know actually

how many varities are their on the fruit-seeds type.

Lots of love to you,

Kris  

[Kris]

Dear Friends  

lets see how many seeds are there in various fruits occuring in the wild or natural habititate...

here are the visuals_

[Kris]

3 seeded ripe fruit exposed for drying,since i was experiminting wheather dried fruits are easier to shave than the ripe fleashy ones.but finally i realised that only the ripes fresh onces are easy to shave off the pulp than the moderately dried ones !

[Kris]

in just 2 day in open air location the seeds moderately dry..

here is the visual_

[Kris]

Now lets see the 4 seeds version,its very rare to see this type of fruit in the bigger seeds species...

here are the visuals after dry it to some extent_

[Alicehunter2000]

Very interesting thread Kris. I am curious as to why Borassus are not more commonly planted here in the U.S.. I also wonder what the ultimate cold hardiness is for a mature specimen.

The following is from Dave Witt's web site.

BORASSUS sp.: seedling ages 1 to 3 show leaf burn around 26f but recover rapidly. A large B.flabellifer growing in mainland Melbourne survived '89's 19f low as did a specimen of the larger growing B.aethiopum, also located in mainland Melbourne @ F.I.T. There are several large species @ Dr. Young's in Tampa that survived '89 as well as male & female palms located off the Indian River coast in Wabasso. The palms in Wabasso are the only fruiting pair outside of FTG in Miami !

Any thoughts?

[BS Man about Palms]

Kris!

I missed this the first time thru! Very great visual story!  Thank you!

It is especially good to me as I just had a Lychee fruit for the first time yesterday.

BS Man

[Kris]

(Alicehunter2000 @ Aug. 27 2007,23:57)

QUOTE

Very interesting thread Kris. I am curious as to why Borassus are not more commonly planted here in the U.S.. I also wonder what the ultimate cold hardiness is for a mature specimen.

Dear David  

but i think now you have an answer for the above question !

why not you try it out in your area...i want you to be the first in your zone.

i think you get my point  

love to you & your family,

Kris  

[Kris]

(BS @ Man about Palms,Aug. 28 2007,00:31)

QUOTE

Kris!

I missed this the first time thru! Very great visual story!  Thank you!

It is especially good to me as I just had a Lychee fruit for the first time yesterday.

BS Man

Dear Bill  

yes they are very tasty like the lychee's and the younger the fruits the better they taste..

And thanks for visitng and keying in your comments..

And i have seen your stills in matty B's party,its clear that the entire PRA team was there and i really felt i missed it..

lots of love,

Kris  

[Kris]

2 types of coloured fruit are there one yellow truning orangish black on ripening and the other is the black form Std..

here are the stills_

[Kris]

. . .

[Kris]

Dear friends visuals of fruits of varying sizes & weights...

procured from the wild...

this one is normal sized fruit very common & easily avaliable in city outskirts_

[Kris]

Now lets see the Big Mama of the palmera seeds...

[Kris]

Now lets see a comparative still of the regular onces in respect to size of a Big Mama...!

[Tim McKernan]

Hi Kris.

Thanks for the help posting a pic. Now to see if it works...

my Borasus aethiopum

Close up of boots and petiole

[Alicehunter2000]

Nice pictures Tim. Anybody else? Show us your Borassus

Kris, are B. aethiopum also growing in India?

[Kris]

Dear Tim  

Fentastic stills and wish to see more from your beautiful garden.and i was unable to log into our forum for the past 2 days.so kindly bear with me for not interacting with you all

with your quries...

lots of love,

Kris  

[Kris]

(Alicehunter2000 @ Sep. 03 2007,00:07)

QUOTE

Kris, are B. aethiopum also growing in India ?

I do not know this for shure,but do they too give edible fruits ?

And even our friend gileno had asked me about this.but no idea at all !

i need some time to find out.

lots of love,

Kris  

[Kris]

Dear Friends  

here are some stills of pulmera trees that grow in the wild in the city outskirts !

And Tim compare the difference with your variety !

love,

Kris  

[Al in Kona]

This is a pic of Borassus sambiranensis in Madagascar which is almost the same as B. aethiopum from Africa but a bit different from B. flabellifer.  

Kris, does this photo help?

[Kris]

Dear Al  

thanks for the interaction but will like to know will they 2 give edible fruits to its owners ?

love,

Kris  

[Kris]

Here are few stills of indian pulmera trees and these goes out to Tim & Al in kona_just to give you folks a taste of S.India...

[Kris]

Close up of those palmeras but they are not the Big Mama Species !