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Lytocaryum hoehnii and weddellianum

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I went to the spring Palm Beach palm & cycad sale and one vendor had gorgeous Lytocaryum hoehnii in 3g pots. I'd never seen this species before. He also had Lytocaryum weddellianum in 1g pots. I've tried weddellianum before with dismal results and have since learned they have issues with my sweltering summers and prefer a more temperate climate. Still, I bit the bullet and grabbed one of each species. At home I repotted them and stashed them deep under canopy in my back yard jungle. So far, the hoehnii seems to be growing fine and looking good and may be a good candidate for my heat and humidity as long as it is kept in shade. The weddellianum is still alive and while it threatened a spear pull several months ago, is opening a new leaf. But it has scarcely grown since I bought it. I hope it can make it until cooler weather in late Oct. and be happier over winter. I don't think either species will accept my alkaline soil and will have to spend their lives in pots. Good thing they stay small. Yesterday I pulled them out of their shady canopies to take photos. These are for you, Pal Meir.

Lytocaryum hoehnii, Cape Coral, FL

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Lytocaryum weddellianum, Cape Coral, FL

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Pal Meir

Thanks for sharing those nice photos. :wub: The L hoehnei looks really excellent. :greenthumb: The scarce growth of the L weddellianum is imo a sign of problems with the roots: I guess they can’t develop well because the soils drainage is not fast enough. :huh: (Cf my thread on the Lyto that won’t grow.) I would repot it and add a lot of LECA pebbles or so to the soil mix.

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PalmatierMeg
1 hour ago, Pal Meir said:

Thanks for sharing those nice photos. :wub: The L hoehnei looks really excellent. :greenthumb: The scarce growth of the L weddellianum is imo a sign of problems with the roots: I guess they can’t develop well because the soils drainage is not fast enough. :huh: (Cf my thread on the Lyto that won’t grow.) I would repot it and add a lot of LECA pebbles or so to the soil mix.

I don't have LECA but I just got a shipment of pumice from CA. I will repot it with a mix of that and soil mix. Thanks for the tip.

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Pal Meir
33 minutes ago, PalmatierMeg said:

I don't have LECA but I just got a shipment of pumice from CA. I will repot it with a mix of that and soil mix. Thanks for the tip.

I fear that pumice retains the water too long, I think lava sand would be better ……

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Xhoniwaters1

I have mine mixed heavily with small bark chips. I water every morning because they dry out quickly. They are growing fast and seem to like the heat and humidity.

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PalmatierMeg
1 hour ago, Pal Meir said:

I fear that pumice retains the water too long, I think lava sand would be better ……

I do have black lava rock from HI.

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dmc

Very nice Meg. The hoehnii has a realy nice color on the bottom side of the leaflet. I gotta ask you though what really caught my eye was that ganoderma growing on that stump. Is that palm stump ?


 

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PalmatierMeg
1 hour ago, dmc said:

Very nice Meg. The hoehnii has a realy nice color on the bottom side of the leaflet. I gotta ask you though what really caught my eye was that ganoderma growing on that stump. Is that palm stump ?


 

It's growing on the stump of one of the wilt-infected queens I took out a couple years ago. Part of the breakdown process. I'm not about to mess with it.

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Alberto

Meg, what I understand is that this mushrooms will produce spores and kill other palms in the futute. I would remove and burn them !

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PalmatierMeg
6 hours ago, Alberto said:

Meg, what I understand is that this mushrooms will produce spores and kill other palms in the futute. I would remove and burn them !

Thanks. I will deal with them tomorrow.

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PalmatierMeg

Pal Meir, thanks for your advice. I crushed some lava rock with a mallet to mix up new potting mix for my weddellianum. I discovered the mix I had concocted several months ago had turned "mucky" and the palm roots hadn't penetrated it. I will keep a closer eye on this palm in the future.

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Trava

That mushrooms growing on dead wood.

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PalmatierMeg

Regarding the bracket fungi growing on the dead Syagrus stumps I have to agree with Trava. Those stumps have been dead 2-3 years. And I don't know even what genus those fungi are. I did further research on genus Ganoderma and discovered there are ~300 species in that genus. Most are saprophytic, i.e., they break down dead plant matter. Out of 300 species only one attacks living palms: Ganoderma zonatum. Those saprophytic bracket fungi are doing me a favor by eliminating the last remnants of my star-crossed queens. And the brackets are only the external fruiting bodies of those fungi. The most important parts of them are within the dead stumps so hacking off the brackets will not eliminate the fungi. They will only produce more. So, I will leave them to their clean up work.

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Laaz

Meg you can get the expanded clay balls at any hydroponic shop & Turface MVP at most lanscape shops. Here it's $17 for a 50 lb bag. Mix in some some good pine bark (I use Miracle grow garden soil) and you have pretty much Pal's mix. I have 4 hoehnii's potted in this mix & they are doing great. The wedd's are whimps & I gave up on them.

 

 

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Pal Meir
14 hours ago, Laaz said:

Meg you can get the expanded clay balls at any hydroponic shop & Turface MVP at most lanscape shops. Here it's $17 for a 50 lb bag. Mix in some some good pine bark (I use Miracle grow garden soil) and you have pretty much Pal's mix. I have 4 hoehnii's potted in this mix & they are doing great. The wedd's are whimps & I gave up on them.

Here in Balconia Germanica the »wimp« :rant: L weddells :wub: are growing much faster than L hoehnei, if (!!!) they have fast draining acidic soils and – as @Xhoniwaters1 already wrote – (almost) daily water. :greenthumb:

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Laaz

:D

Yes I water every day as well.

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Pal Meir
28 minutes ago, Laaz said:

:D

Yes I water every day as well.

And which one is looking like a »wimp«? :P

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Laaz

You have a runt... I don't bother with the wedds anymore, but maybe I'll try some more in this new mix.

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