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Jim in Los Altos

I thought it would be fun if some of us could post their area's climate and the number of palm species currently growing in their gardens. Here's mine in Los Altos, CA. I'm at 150 species so far. IMG_8503.thumb.PNG.70fa67fbd7377b86b64f6

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kinzyjr

The climate in Lakeland, FL (according to weather.com):

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I have some additional information about the record lows and zones in my signature.  If our recent weather patterns continue, we may have the wettest year on record in 2018.

Palms in the ground:

2 rhapidophyllum hystrix, 3 sabal minor 'blue stem', 2 sabal palmetto, 11 phoenix roebelenii, 4 phoenix dactylifera, 4 phoenix theophrasti, 3 clumps of rhapis excelsa, bismarckia nobilis, chamaerops humilis 'cerifera', 4 coconut palms (Green Malayan, Maypan, 2 Jamaican Tall)

Palms bought yesterday that will be added shortly:

Archontophoenix alexandrae (to replace the one that died), beccariophoenix alfredii

Personal nursery:

I have ~15 phoenix theophrasti seedlings and ~20 sabal palmetto seedlings in small pots.  A few of each will end up in the ground, but the bulk will end up being gifted.

Considering adding:

Roystonea regia, medemia argun, acoelorrhaphe wrightii, trachycarpus fortunei, sabal minor (more/different varieties), rhapidophyllum hystrix (more)

Others of Note:

Bambusa oldhamii (Giant Timber bamboo), philodendron bipinnatifidum, Caladium bicolor 'Florida Cardinal', coccoloba uvifera (sea grapes), Pennisetum setaceum 'Rubrum',  Musa acuminata 'Dwarf Cavendish', Musa acuminata × balbisiana (ABB Group) 'Blue Java', Sugar cane, Hall avocados, Mango (unsure of the exact variety), valencia orange, persian lime

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PalmTreeDude

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Here are my averages... Not exactly tropical. 

I'll make a little list.

Palms In Ground (That Are Alive and Well)

Needle Palm, Pindo Palm, Mediterranean Fan Palm, and many Sabal palmetto seedlings scattered around my garden. 

Palms I Want (For In Ground) 

Sabal minor (I have a seedling in a pot), Sabal etonia, and Saw Palmetto. 

Palms I Have For Indoors In The Winter

Coconut palm, lots of Christmas Palms, and Medjool Date Palms. 

There is my list, it has palms that I don't have in my garden that I included but I thought I'd share them anyways. 

 

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CLINODAVE

Hilo/ east Hawaii.

Highest avg monthly high temp is 83 (Sep), avg lowest temp in summer is 70 (also Sep). 

Lowest avg monthly high temp is 79 (Jan);  avg lowest temp in winter is 64 (Feb).

Rains buckets all year but enough sun for solar power.   Not too much else to say.

 

re: palm species, I have about 30, they are the kinds that deal with tropical wet conditions.

 

 

Dave

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mdsonofthesouth

Another not so tropical location reporting in. Central Piedmont has HOT and HUMID summers and typically mild winters, but the northeast reminds us of it's close proximity every so often...them and Canada sometimes delivers us a vortex.

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Palms in ground: trachycarpus fortunei, chamaerops humilis, chamaerops humilis var. Cerifera, livistona chinensis (perennial but apparently trunk hardy here) and rhapidophyllum hystrix.

Also have yucca gloriosa, a mystery "blue sentry" yucca that resembles a thin blade gloriosa and sago "palms".

 

Palms for the future: sabal minor of all kinds, but might just find a variety and stick with it. Wagniaranus, Nova, and bulgarian trachycarpus are all planned as well and more rhapidophyllum than you can shake a stick at (already have 6 in ground but that's not enough!). 

Also planning on a whole mess of yuccas added too.

 

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cm05

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I’m on Long Island, so subtract 1 degree off the high temperatures, and 2-3 degrees off the low temperatures. Borderline zone 7a/7b.

I’m currently growing 10 species, only 4 of which are compatible with this climate: Rhapidophyllum hystrix, Sabal minor “Louisiana”, Trachycarpus fortunei, and Trachycarpus takil.

I had the Needle and a Windmill in the ground, but I moved and they’re in pots now. Remind me to never wait until the ground is partially frozen to move palms, that Needle took everything to pull out of the ground.

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pin38

KC area checking in (6a/6b border). Highly variable winters and hot, humid summers.

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PalmatierMeg

Monthly temperatures & rainfall for Cape Coral, FL, zone 10a/10b

Cape Coral, Florida
Monthly Averages & Records -  °F | °C
Date Average
Low
Average
High
Record
Low
Record
High
Average
Precipitation
Average
Snow
January 54° 75° 27° (1905) 90° (2003) 2.23" 0"
February 55° 77° 27° (1917) 92° (1962) 2.1" 0"
March 59° 80° 33° (1980) 93° (1980) 2.74" 0"
April 63° 85° 39° (1950) 96° (1986) 1.67" 0"
May 68° 89° 50° (1945) 99° (1989) 3.42" 0"
June 73° 91° 58° (1894) 103° (1981) 9.77" 0"
July 74° 92° 66° (1950) 101° (1942) 8.98" 0"
August 74° 92° 65° (1957) 100° (1942) 9.54" 0"
September 74° 90° 63° (1922) 98° (1912) 7.86" 0"
October 69° 86° 45° (1957) 95° (1990) 2.59" 0"
November 62° 81° 34° (1970) 95° (1986) 1.71" 0"
December 56° 77° 24° (1894) 90° (1978) 1.58" 0"
 
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Rickybobby

I’m in Scotland Ontario Canada 

6a and with global warming we used to be 5b

in another 10 years it will be a lot easier to grow trachycarpus in the ground with little protection 

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Cape Garrett
On 7/10/2018, 5:59:51, PalmatierMeg said:

Monthly temperatures & rainfall for Cape Coral, FL, zone 10a/10b

Cape Coral, Florida
Monthly Averages & Records -  °F | °C
Date Average
Low
Average
High
Record
Low
Record
High
Average
Precipitation
Average
Snow
January 54° 75° 27° (1905) 90° (2003) 2.23" 0"
February 55° 77° 27° (1917) 92° (1962) 2.1" 0"
March 59° 80° 33° (1980) 93° (1980) 2.74" 0"
April 63° 85° 39° (1950) 96° (1986) 1.67" 0"
May 68° 89° 50° (1945) 99° (1989) 3.42" 0"
June 73° 91° 58° (1894) 103° (1981) 9.77" 0"
July 74° 92° 66° (1950) 101° (1942) 8.98" 0"
August 74° 92° 65° (1957) 100° (1942) 9.54" 0"
September 74° 90° 63° (1922) 98° (1912) 7.86" 0"
October 69° 86° 45° (1957) 95° (1990) 2.59" 0"
November 62° 81° 34° (1970) 95° (1986) 1.71" 0"
December 56° 77° 24° (1894) 90° (1978) 1.58" 0"
 

I'm ready for November!!  Perfect!

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TexasColdHardyPalms

I'd do almost anything to average 9" of rain in June/July/August!!!!

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NC_Palms

Greenville, NC (zone 8a)  

Humid Subtropical 

Greenville has long hot humid summers and short mild winters. Rarely goes below 18°. 

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Palms in Ground: Sabal Palmetto, Sabal Minor, Washingtonia Filfera, Windmill Palm 

Palms in Pots: Sabal Palmettos, Washingtonia Filifera, Washingtonia Robusta, Everglades Palm, Sabal Minor, Canary Island Date Palm, Dwarf Date Palm

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TexasColdHardyPalms

Humid Subtropical Zone 8A

43 Different Palm Species, lots of hybrids & Cycads

 

hideClimate data for Arlington, Texas
Month Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
Record high °F (°C) 93
(34)
96
(36)
100
(38)
101
(38)
107
(42)
113
(45)
110
(43)
112
(44)
111
(44)
106
(41)
89
(32)
90
(32)
113
(45)
Average high °F (°C) 54.7
(12.6)
59.1
(15.1)
66.1
(18.9)
73.9
(23.3)
81.6
(27.6)
89.2
(31.8)
94.1
(34.5)
94.4
(34.7)
86.6
(30.3)
76.5
(24.7)
65.0
(18.3)
56.3
(13.5)
74.8
(23.8)
Daily mean °F (°C) 44.9
(7.2)
48.7
(9.3)
56.1
(13.4)
64.4
(18)
73.6
(23.1)
80.9
(27.2)
85.1
(29.5)
85.4
(29.7)
77.2
(25.1)
66.1
(18.9)
55.4
(13)
46.4
(8)
65.4
(18.5)
Average low °F (°C) 35.1
(1.7)
38.3
(3.5)
46.2
(7.9)
54.8
(12.7)
65.6
(18.7)
72.6
(22.6)
76.1
(24.5)
76.3
(24.6)
67.8
(19.9)
55.6
(13.1)
45.7
(7.6)
36.4
(2.4)
55.9
(13.3)
Record low °F (°C) −2
(−19)
−8
(−22)
10
(−12)
29
(−2)
34
(1)
48
(9)
56
(13)
55
(13)
40
(4)
24
(−4)
19
(−7)
−1
(−18)
−8
(−22)
Average precipitation inches (mm) 2.41
(61.2)
2.91
(73.9)
3.54
(89.9)
3.01
(76.5)
5.41
(137.4)
4.32
(109.7)
2.66
(67.6)
2.23
(56.6)
3.17
(80.5)
4.49
(114)
2.66
(67.6)
2.79
(70.9)
39.6
(1,005.8)
Average snowfall inches (cm) 0.3
(0.8)
0.4
(1)
0.1
(0.3)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0.2
(0.5)
1.0
(2.5)
Source: NWS Dallas/Fort Worth[14][15]

Climate Arlington - Texas

°C | °F
  Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun
Average high in °F: 58 61 69 77 84 91
Average low in °F: 35 40 47 54 63 70
Av. precipitation in inch: 2.05 2.68 3.66 3.15 4.53 4.21
Days with precipitation: - - - - - -
Hours of sunshine: - - - - - -
  Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
Average high in °F: 95 96 89 79 68 58
Average low in °F: 73 73 67 56 46 37
Av. precipitation in inch: 2.36 1.97 3.78 4.61 2.6 2.76
Days with precipitation: - - - - - -
Hours of sunshine: - - - - - -

 

Arlington weather averages

Annual high temperature: 77.1°F
Annual low temperature: 55.1°F
Average temperature: 66.1°F
Average annual precipitation - rainfall: 38.36 inch
Days per year with precipitation - rainfall: -
Annual hours of sunshine: -
Av. annual snowfall: -

 

 

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Estlander

Have the following 10 palm species in ground:

1 Cataractum palm, 2 Majesty palms, 3 Chamaerops humilis, 3 Washingtonia Robusta, 1 Ph. Sylvestris, 1 Queen palm, 2 Trachycarpus Fortunei, 3 Mule palms, 1 Sabal Palm. Also have probably over a hundred 6-8ft. tall Serenoa Repens growing wild in my yard along the property line as a privacy fence, lol.

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SoulofthePlace

Pico island, Azores. Most residences are within first 200 meters above sea level. Climate extremes are 45F to 82F. Most common temps are 50F to 77F. Winter 50F to 64F. Summer 68F to 77F. Most plants can grow that do not require winter frost and are NOT super tropicals that require constant heat and no wind. Average yearly temperature: about 17C (63F). Hardiness zone 11A, 11B, 12A (depending on elevation within the first 300m).

Climate table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico_Island#Climate

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Yunder Wækraus

Kewarra Beach, Queensland, Australia. I'm now renting (sob), but the landlord has lipstick palms and foxtails (among others) on the property. I'm trying to get permanent residency, but it's a lengthy and expensive process with no sure outcome. If I do, I'll be able to buy property without restriction or the need of special permission, and I hope to either get a house (if we can somehow afford it) or buy a little piece of land outside of Atherton or up in the Daintree area. For now, I can only enjoy the majestic wild plants, which (to my never-ending delight) include multiple species of palms, cycads, screw pine, and tree fern :-)

 

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Cindy Adair

Here’s my information, apparently close to that of the Kona coast on the Big Island in HI temperature wise. 

 

From weatherspark:

Waikoloa Village, Kona coast, Hawaii, United States (5,729 miles away) is the far-away foreign place with temperatures most similar to Las Marías, PR.”

“The temperature in Las Marías varies so little throughout the year that it is not entirely meaningful to discuss hot and cold seasons.”

“Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 66°Fto 86°F and is rarely below 63°F or above 88°F.”

 

“Rain falls throughout the year in Las Marías. The most rain falls during the 31 days centered around October 31, with an average total accumulation of 3.6 inches. “

“The least rain falls around March 1, with an average total accumulation of 0.8 inches.”

I also like the N/A under snow and the has never had a frost part! Average temps year round are perfect for me!

 

Historic Average
Las Marias, Puerto Rico
Monthly Averages & Records -  °F 
Date Average
Low
Average
High
Record
Low
Record
High
Average
Precipitation
Average
Snow
January 61° 88° 40° (1966) 95° (1973) 2.12" NA
February 61° 88° 47° (1975) 95° (1973) 3.07" NA
March 62° 89° 50° (1970) 95° (1980) 3.83" NA
April 64° 90° 51° (1977) 96° (1973) 6.81" NA
May 66° 91° 57° (1983) 98° (1973) 12.99" NA
June 68° 92° 60° (1985) 97° (1997) 11.25" NA
July 67° 93° 52° (1974) 98° (1990) 7.89" NA
August 68° 93° 60° (1971) 98° (1993) 10.35" NA
September 68° 93° 56° (1987) 97° (1971) 10.89" NA
October 67° 92° 55° (1965) 97° (1972) 12.29" NA
November 66° 90° 52° (1976
         
December 63° 88° 51° (1977) 93° (1981) 2.96"  
 
             
             

 

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Daryl

Closest official weather recording station to here is Hinze Dam, about 8km south of me and same altitude and distance from ocean, so temps are pretty consistent with what I see here on my weather station. Co-ordinates are 27 deg 58 mins South and 153 Deg east

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Cocoa Beach Jason

47C79144-4522-4EA2-8C11-2A3197929699.thuCocoa Beach. Growing all kinds of palms and some tropical fruit.

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Cape Garrett
On 8/12/2018, 9:23:58, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

47C79144-4522-4EA2-8C11-2A3197929699.thuCocoa Beach. Growing all kinds of palms and some tropical fruit.

Hmmmm...these winter lows are higher than West Palm Beach and Fort Myers/Cape Coral/Naples.  Not sure where these are recorded but I find that a bit hard to believe.  

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pj_orlando_z9b

Growing beccariophoenix alfredii, foxtail, pygmys, bottle palm, christmas palms, majesties, and a coconut.

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Tyrone

Albany Western Australia, mild Mediterranean tending towards more of an oceanic climate than the real Mediterranean.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_009741.shtml

The above averages are the closest official station to me, however I'm at 13m asl with everyone else higher than me as I'm down in a valley about 9kms inland. I'm slightly cooler at night in winter than the airport and warmer in the day with less wind, although the wind can get damaging here at times.

Hottest temp last summer was 33.9C. Humidity is generally between 65-99% but if it blows from the north the humidity can drop off lower but nothing like the west coast of Oz.

It can get wet here. The most I've recorded is around 1200mm for the year. A lot drier this year.

I don't know how many species I have growing here but I have quite a few. The most tropical would be Roystonea borinquena ( gonna move it to a better spot as it's not happy where it is), Dypsis pembana, Dypsis leptocheilos, Dypsis crinita, Hyophorbe indica, Arenga westerhoutii, a couple of tortured Kerridoxa in the greenhouse (they'll go into my new tunnel house when I build it) Acanthophoenix rubra, Ptychosperma elegans, Ptychococcus lepidotas. I did have a terrible freeze event last year, possibly -3C in the open which damaged many things. Surprisingly the lower stems on my Pinanga coronatas are still growing.

The best ones growing here are all the Rhopalostylis, Howea, Hedyscepe, even Archontophoenix at least cunninghamiana, alexandrae, maxima. Beccariophoenix alfredii is a winner here too, as well as Parajubaea, Jubaea.

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Chester B

Palms in the ground:

Trachycarpus fortunei - 26

Trachycarpus wagnerianus - 1

Trachycarpus takil - 1

Sabal minor - 2

Rhapidophyllum hystrix - 6

Butia capitata (odorata) - 1

Serenoa repens - Silver - 3

Chamaerops humilis - green -1 and blue -1

 

Growing out in pots to be planted:

Sabal mexicana

Jubea x Butia

Jubea chilensis

Trachycarpus princeps

Trachycarpus fortunei

Sabal uresana

Rhapidophyllum hystrix

In pots:

Washingtonia fillifera

Livistona chinesis 

 

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greysrigging

2017 rainfall and so far this year 2018. Much of south eastern Australia is suffering a record breaking drought. The south west coast around Perth has had the best winter rains for decades. Here in the Top End we have a seasonal drought due to our extreme monsoonal climate. Last year I had 5 full calendar months without rain ( a record ) and this 'dry' season is tracking the same way ( no rain since 21st of April )

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=136&p_display_type=dailyDataFile&p_startYear=2017&p_c=-40697592&p_stn_num=014246

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=136&p_display_type=dailyDataFile&p_startYear=2018&p_c=-40697592&p_stn_num=014246

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Josue Diaz

I am growing quite a number of palms. A lot of them are experimental, given they'd have to endure a prolonged cool period from November through February.The shift in temperatures from Oct to November is pretty drastic. 

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      The temperatures look absolutely appalling for London this week, in mid-May! Highs of 14C / 57F from Thursday to Monday with another storm in between. However there are signs that it will bet warming up next week with temperatures trending closer to normal, but still no proper warmth at all. I have never seen anything like this in May. It sums up a crap spring in general and a crap 2021, weather-wise!

       
      What is even more unbelievable is that parts of Russia and Siberia are running as much as 25C (50F) above average for the time of year!

       
      I have to give spring 2021 a rating of 1 out of 10, it has genuinely been that bad! I'm praying for a record breaking hot summer. 
    • UK_Palms
      By UK_Palms
      Taking into account your observations when gardening, and specifically growing palms, have you noticed any genuine change in your climate, or evidence of global warming? Or have you become aware through education and through the media?
      I'm just wondering what people's thoughts are on here...?
    • PalmTreeDude
      By PalmTreeDude
      What exactly are sunset climate zones? I tried to look it up and basically every site just says, "it takes in all the factors of growing in a climate" and then doesn't really explain it. Is a higher number good or bad? What's the scale? 
    • PalmTreeDude
      By PalmTreeDude
      I just happened to find this on YouTube and I thought it was really cool to see. Look at the water. 
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcY_OXMHdRE 
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