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Steve Mac
On 8/5/2020 at 7:39 PM, sandgroper said:

remove their "less-than-majestic-looking Bismarckia nobilis"

Well that is a phrase that you don't hear every day. :o

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sandgroper
13 hours ago, gtsteve said:

Well that is a phrase that you don't hear every day. :o

Hmm, not sure what s going on here but I never wrote that .

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Steve Mac

No mate,  you did not write that, You quoted John in Andalucia who said that earlier,

I should have used the original quote from John, not from where you quoted him.

He is probably right, the Bizzy at Kew Gardens is probably less than majestic.

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Spiro
On 1/31/2019 at 3:37 PM, John in Andalucia said:

Cheers! I appreciate the comments. 

Nice looking palm I have one I brought over from Cuba, not sure what variety it is but I’m assuming it’s not one of those mini palms , I bought it home in January it sprouted in February , this is where it’s at now 

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John in Andalucia
On 12/6/2020 at 1:37 PM, Aleitalyyy said:

what is the temperature in the conservatory where the coconut lives? temperature December January ...

Probably 12 Celsius. Right now, it's 5C outdoors and 13C inside the conservatory. Soil temperature is 14.5C

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John in Andalucia

 

On 12/7/2020 at 8:12 AM, gtsteve said:

Well that is a phrase that you don't hear every day. :o

Yeah, that's me being British.

On 12/8/2020 at 4:09 AM, gtsteve said:

He is probably right, the Bizzy at Kew Gardens is probably less than majestic.

It's an odd choice to have in an overcrowded, humid tropical palm house IMO. The temperate house is more suited to Mediterranean palms and has way more light.

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John in Andalucia
On 12/8/2020 at 2:14 PM, Spiro said:

Nice looking palm I have one I brought over from Cuba, not sure what variety it is but I’m assuming it’s not one of those mini palms , I bought it home in January it sprouted in February , this is where it’s at now 

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Hi Spiro, Welcome to PalmTalk.

I read that Coconut palms in Middle America are mostly of the Pacific variety, whereas Caribbean palms belong to the Indian group. So yours may be an 'Indian Tall' variety.

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Aleitalyyy
17 ore fa, John in Andalucia ha detto:

Probabilmente 12 gradi Celsius. In questo momento, è 5 ° C all'aperto e 13 ° C all'interno del giardino d'inverno. La temperatura del suolo è di 14,5 ° C

incredibile che cresca a quella temperatura, 14 gradi sono bassissimi per una noce di cocco ... io tengo sempre il mio a 20 ° ...:o

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maesy

Here is my coconut tree that I donated to a tropical house some years ago here in the province of canton Lucerne. I brought it from the Philippines in 2008 as a sprouted seed.

 

 

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maesy

There is also a garden restaurant not far from the palm. I dont think the temperature ever goes below 20°C.

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Aleitalyyy

@jonh ask confirmation that your coconut grows and vegetates at a temperature of 13 degrees in the winter house greenhouse? it seems very strange to me ... so was the orange variety cultivar and therefore more resistant to low temperatures than the green cocos?

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MelvinB

A few weeks ago, i bought a second seedling Cocos which i had placed in an unheated bedroom with temperatures around 17C, but it died very quick. (Total browning of the Cocos)

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Aleitalyyy
50 minutes ago, MelvinB said:

Qualche settimana fa, ho comprato una seconda piantina Cocos che avevo messo in una camera da letto non riscaldata con temperature intorno ai 17 ° C, ma è morta molto velocemente. (Doratura totale dei Cocos)

hello melvin in fact I don't understand how an orange cocos can grow at 13 degrees ... maybe the colors are more resistant to cold? I'm trying to understand ... why a coconut with day and night temperatures at 13 degrees died in a short time ...

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MelvinB
10 hours ago, Aleitalyyy said:

hello melvin in fact I don't understand how an orange cocos can grow at 13 degrees ... maybe the colors are more resistant to cold? I'm trying to understand ... why a coconut with day and night temperatures at 13 degrees died in a short time ...

From what i know, the Panama/Pacific Tall variety is the most cold hardy. 
 

Ofcourse, it depends on size also. 

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Aleitalyyy

@MelvinB melvin I have also read that the tall the most tolerant to cold ... the jamaican tall the least ... we are waiting for confirmation from jonh that his orange coconut grows at 13 degrees of daily temperatures ... if so I will look for a quality orange to grow here in Italy ...

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Spiro

Here’s my coconut I brought over from Cuba Jan 2020 , it took a while to sprout but looking good now 

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Aleitalyyy

Hi my coconut

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Aleitalyyy

@MelvinB   hi here's my coconut today .. I would be curious to see your alfredii as it proceeds, mine is still very small ...

@Stelios my coconut green

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MelvinB
1 hour ago, Aleitalyyy said:

@MelvinB   hi here's my coconut today .. I would be curious to see your alfredii as it proceeds, mine is still very small ...

@Stelios my coconut green

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Here is my B. Alfredii in my bedroom during this winter. It’s still sending out new spears/leaves.

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Stelios
1 hour ago, Aleitalyyy said:

@MelvinB   hi here's my coconut today .. I would be curious to see your alfredii as it proceeds, mine is still very small ...

@Stelios my coconut green

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Looking great Alessandro.

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Aleitalyyy

@MelvinBvery nice looks like a dwarf coconut ... I also hope I grow fast with the new season ...

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Aleitalyyy
On 9/12/2020 at 22:20, John in Andalucia said:

Probabilmente 12 gradi Celsius. In questo momento ci sono 5C all'aperto e 13C all'interno del giardino d'inverno. La temperatura del suolo è 14.5C

hello jhon how are you? put an update of your orange cocos?

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