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Creation of my Hawaiian Garden - Horizon View Hilo


Hilo Jason

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That's really amazing progress, and beautiful palms!  Oddly enough, the one that I like the most is the row of Pinanga Coronata.  Maybe because I could (possibly) grow that here in a cold 9b.  I may try this with Dypsis Pembana, which is apparently a few degrees hardier.  Thanks for the pictures!

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Jason- that D ambanja looks great.  Does the black peppering go away?

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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Jason,

the most of your palms are still young but they are already looking so beautiful!

This thread is really a great pleasure and inspiration!

Best regards -

Lars

 

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On 1/18/2020 at 2:44 PM, Merlyn2220 said:

That's really amazing progress, and beautiful palms!  Oddly enough, the one that I like the most is the row of Pinanga Coronata.  Maybe because I could (possibly) grow that here in a cold 9b.  I may try this with Dypsis Pembana, which is apparently a few degrees hardier.  Thanks for the pictures!

I agree that Pinanga Coronata is one of my favorites and after seeing how fast they grow here I’m an even bigger fan of them now. I regret not planting that entire row with P. Coronata. On one end I have 2 Dypsis Lanceolata and on the other end are 2 Areca Vestiaria. I wanted to mix up the hedge but the Coronata have out-performed the others and have grown much thicker as well, which is what I wanted with the hedge. 

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9 minutes ago, Hilo Jason said:

I agree that Pinanga Coronata is one of my favorites and after seeing how fast they grow here I’m an even bigger fan of them now. I regret not planting that entire row with P. Coronata. On one end I have 2 Dypsis Lanceolata and on the other end are 2 Areca Vestiaria. I wanted to mix up the hedge but the Coronata have out-performed the others and have grown much thicker as well, which is what I wanted with the hedge. 

Here’s a picture I just took that shows the Dypsis Lanceolata on the left of the Pinanga Coronata. Still nice looking palms, but just not filling in like the Coronata did. Although in another year or two I’m sure they will. These were also 1 gallon plants and are now over 10 feet tall. 

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On 1/18/2020 at 3:02 PM, joe_OC said:

Jason- that D ambanja looks great.  Does the black peppering go away?

For now, it’s keeping that black peppering. Here are a couple pictures from the newest leaf which is about 7 feet tall. 

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4 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

For now, it’s keeping that black peppering. Here are a couple pictures from the newest leaf which is about 7 feet tall. 

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That's become such a winner.

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Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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Every day you walk outside of your house and take a look at your yard you must have to pinch yourself to make sure you’re not dreaming.

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22 hours ago, Big Eye said:

Your forest is filling in nicely! I always pass it on the way to my lot! :shaka-2:

Stop by sometime! 

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On 1/22/2020 at 9:40 AM, Hilo Jason said:

Stop by sometime! 

Seeing that we will be building our house very soon, this thread gives me hope of what our lot could look like if plans change. Also, being so close, I'm sure our soils are the same. How long did it take you to dig and break through that one hole with straight rock? So not looking forward to using the o`o bar to break through all that rock we have...

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23 hours ago, Big Eye said:

Seeing that we will be building our house very soon, this thread gives me hope of what our lot could look like if plans change. Also, being so close, I'm sure our soils are the same. How long did it take you to dig and break through that one hole with straight rock? So not looking forward to using the o`o bar to break through all that rock we have...

I have a good amount of soil in my front yard, so that has been very nice.  The backyard has less and is where I encounter more rock.  The most I will spend is about 30 minutes or so, chipping away at rock and trying to get something to budge.  If it's blue rock, then there's no chance and you just find another spot or plant right on top of it and mound as much soil up as possible to give the palm something to root into.  Thankfully I haven't dealt with that much.  

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17 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

I have a good amount of soil in my front yard, so that has been very nice.  The backyard has less and is where I encounter more rock.  The most I will spend is about 30 minutes or so, chipping away at rock and trying to get something to budge.  If it's blue rock, then there's no chance and you just find another spot or plant right on top of it and mound as much soil up as possible to give the palm something to root into.  Thankfully I haven't dealt with that much.  

Thanks! I've been lucky that the 1 acre area that the plants will go have been graded so most of the big slabs of blue rock have been eaten up by the dozer's ripper. I know for sure that it still won't be as easy as I'm hoping. Thanks, Jason!

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Well, it's been several months and I've been planting a bit so I figured it was time for an update on new plantings as well as some updated photos of some of some older plantings.  

Ravenea Lakatra:

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Ravenea Lakatra in the ground:

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Wettinia Hirsuta, 4" pot, shown next to the hole it was being planted in: 

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Pinanga Pachyphylla:

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Licuala peltata var. 'sumawongii' (3 gallon pot):

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Planted: 

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I bought this as a small 4" Dypsis Robusta Hybrid on one of my first trips to Floribunda when we moved here, almost 3 years ago.  Now that it was rooted into a 5 gallon pot, I decided to plant it.  i was waiting to see it grow up a bit to try to get an idea of what it might end up looking like as an older palm.  Big and stocky like a Robusta?  Or something else.  It's starting to take on the characteristics of a mid size Dypsis, possibly Lanceolata as I've seen flowering Lanceolata not too far away from the flowering Robusta at Floribunda.  

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Closer look: 

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Planted in the ground:

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This planting was from back in April and since then it has now pushed out a small sucker, reinforcing my idea that this could be crossed with Lanceolata.  

 

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Some more new plantings:
 

A small Hedyscepe Canterburyana, you don't see many of these here on the Big Island so I'm hoping that it does well:

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Created a new, narrow planter that connected some previous plantings (Carpoxylon and Burretiokentia).  Filled it in mostly with various Coleus clippings so that this would become a colorful hedge along our road.  But planted a couple of palms as well. 

Overall pic of new planter:

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Coccothrinax Macroglossa:

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Pinanga Sp Maroon:

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And in the backyard, planted a small Pinanga Sierramadreana:

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Another planter enlarged to take out a bit of grass and ad a couple more palms:

Here's the overall area after grass is torn our, rocks dug up, etc...  Just a small area. 

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And here's the revised version:

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New palms include Pinanga Declinata:

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Cyphokentia Macrostachya:

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And another overall shot of the backyard that includes this new planter area:

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Garden looks great Jason.  Gotta stop by next time we visit.  

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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One of my Areca Macrocalyx has been declining for awhile and developing a very skinny pencil neck.  I decided it was time to pull it out and rework this raised planter area.  

Here's the Areca Macrocalyx pulled up and ready to go into the compost pile:

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I then took apart that block wall area because I was never really happy with how it was and decided to rework it.  I have much more respect for the guys that work with these rocks and do this for a living or who have done a lot of these in their gardens here on the Big Island!  Some of these rocks were extremely heavy and positioning them together is a skill.  Not sure I have that skill, but I'm happier with how it is now. 

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This new planter gave me an excuse to go palm shopping.  I made a stop at Tim's (realarch) house first to get some inspiration for smaller palms and decided to focus on Calytrocalyx.   I ended up planting a Calyptrocalyx micholitzii in the front, 3 - Calyptrocalyx leptostachys behind that and then a Calyptrocalyx hollrungii furthest back.  

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While I'm doing all of this work, I am being supervised by Rocky: 

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More front yard additions, sorry for the poor photo. Tall palm on the left is Hydriastele Macrospadix and small one is Ceroxylon quindiuense.

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And this is a Dypsis Paludosa Hybrid, most likely crossed with Rosea.  This was from Bill Austin and he has an older version of this same palm and it has almost a Mad Fox look to it when older. 

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Showing the red coloring:

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Ceroxylon planted.  I planted it on a cool and rainy day with hopes that I can trick it into thinking that it's actually in high elevation Colombia! 

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Dypsis Paludosa Hybrid in the ground in the middle and on the right is the Hydriastele Macrospadix.  This is another planter that was enlarged to include these new additions. 

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And a handful of smaller plantings that I just planted this week to fill in the understory area. 

Itaya Amicorum:

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Pinanga Batanensis:

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2 - Licuala Terengganuensis (planted from 4" pots)

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Lanonia Dasyantha:

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Licuala Ferruginosa:

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Basselinia Gracilis and behind it is Calytrocalyx Yamutumune:

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Last planting for now and this gets this thread caught up with new plantings.  I'm not sure what this palm is.  Most likely a Ravenea of some sort.  This was an old palm that I found at Floribunda that had never been potted up from a 4" pot.  There was no tag in it.  Jeff let me have it as I said I would pot it up and see what it became.  

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In the ground:

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It's planted at the base of several very tall Archontophoenix Alexandrae.  Most Ravenea's have a fairly upright growing style, so I'm hoping that this turns into a large Ravenea that takes up a lot of the space in between these trunks.  

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Here are some updated photos from the past couple months that I've taken.  Thanks for looking! 

Pinanga Declinata (this is going to be an incredible palm for many people as it becomes more available)

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Cyphophoenix Alba

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Areca Vestiaria

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Rocky checking out a Dypsis Pilulifera

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Rocky bringing my wife over to his favorite part of the yard to check out the big Dypsis.  Mananjarensis on the left, Hovomantsina on the right. 

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Rocky can't believe I found a Dypsis Leucomalla at this size for sale, I can't either! 

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Dypsis Rosea new leaf

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Zingiber flowers with an Orange Cyrtostachys:

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Dypsis Robusta Hybrid (left), Dypsis Nauseosa (center), Dypsis Ambositrae 'Stiff leaf' (far right)

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Dypsis Robusta Hybrid pushing it's first flower:

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Dypsis Decipiens Hybrid

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Dypsis Sp Ambanja (left) Cyphophoenix Alba (right)

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Pinanga Coronata hedge on left.  Dypsis sp Ambanja on left.  Cyphophoenix Alba behind that.  On the right is Orania Longisquama:

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A couple Veitchia Joannis with Dypsis Sp Dark Mealy Bug in front:

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Dypsis Nauseosa in center, Dypsis Robusta on right

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1 minute ago, Hilo Jason said:

Dypsis Decipiens Hybrid

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Dypsis Sp Ambanja (left) Cyphophoenix Alba (right)

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Pinanga Coronata hedge on left.  Dypsis sp Ambanja on left.  Cyphophoenix Alba behind that.  On the right is Orania Longisquama:

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A couple Veitchia Joannis with Dypsis Sp Dark Mealy Bug in front:

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Dypsis Nauseosa in center, Dypsis Robusta on right

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I love Arizona but Jesus Christ do I need a second place in Hawaii...

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Lemurophoenix:

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Dypsis Albofarinosa Hybrid, must have crossed with something red and fuzzy! 

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Overall plant, staying solitary for now:

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Dypsis Pembana x Madagascariensis base (foot for scale)

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Dypsis Hovomantsina base (shoe for scale)

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Areca Vestiaria Red / Maroon Form:

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Dypsis sp Mayotte:

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Masoala Madagascariensis (1 gallon watering can for scale)

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More of Dypsis Sp Ambanja w/ Rocky for scale:

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Dypsis sp Ambanja, up close:

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Dypsis Prestoniana Hybrid, just started trunking.  I love everything about this palm, the coloring, leaflets.  It's so fast that I feel like this is the perfect height to enjoy it, very soon it will be towering up above the yard.  (check out the Hookeri photo bombing with a new red leaf)

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opposite angle:

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And that's it for now.  Rocky is tired and has called it a day!  

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26 minutes ago, Hilo Jason said:

Dypsis Prestoniana Hybrid, just started trunking.  I love everything about this palm, the coloring, leaflets.  It's so fast that I feel like this is the perfect height to enjoy it, very soon it will be towering up above the yard.  (check out the Hookeri photo bombing with a new red leaf)

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And that's it for now.  Rocky is tired and has called it a day!  

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Great deep green color on the prestoniana hybrid!  I know I shouldn't be surprised by the growth rates anymore, having seen so many things in your garden progress rapidly.  Despite that, I still am amazed at the speed of things there.  Its always a pleasure reading your posts and seeing your garden Jason! 

33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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Amazing. Thanks for posting. Can't wait to see in person.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Your garden is beautiful Jason, it’s been a blast watching the genesis.

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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3 hours ago, Tracy said:

Great deep green color on the prestoniana hybrid!  I know I shouldn't be surprised by the growth rates anymore, having seen so many things in your garden progress rapidly.  Despite that, I still am amazed at the speed of things there.  Its always a pleasure reading your posts and seeing your garden Jason! 

Thanks Tracy.  Honestly I'm still surprised and amazed by the growth rates and I live here, hah!   Thanks for following this thread since the beginning! 

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3 hours ago, LJG said:

Amazing. Thanks for posting. Can't wait to see in person.

Thanks Len, looking forward to having you here one of these days.  

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1 hour ago, Matt in OC said:

I’m speechless. Congratulations Jason. Everything looks perfect. 

Thanks Matt!  Come out and visit and see it in person some time. 

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10 minutes ago, realarch said:

Your garden is beautiful Jason, it’s been a blast watching the genesis.

Tim

Thanks Tim, this is all your fault!  Not sure I ever would have pulled the trigger on buying a place here without first seeing what you did on a similar sized lot.

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Well done Jason.

And more importantly, to see your garden in person soon.

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