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Creation of my Hawaiian Garden - Horizon View Hilo


Hilo Jason

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Again a jaw-dropping update, Jason -

thank you very much, I really enjoyed it!

Please have a safe trip,

best regards -

Lars

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Thank you for taking the time to update this thread!

JW

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On 3/20/2019 at 12:23 AM, Hilo Jason said:

Kim summed this up very well.  My wife and I own our own business and our work is computer based so we can live anywhere in the world as long as we have internet.  So the Big Island was a great choice for us and we haven't regretted the decision once.  I have seen plenty of shortages here though now that I've been here awhile and it's made me see opportunities.   Not any that I have the training for, but if anyone is a vet or a dentist, there's a huge need!  It takes months to get an appointment for either, and that's only if they are accepting new patients.  Or if you want to learn how to spray for fire ants, there's always a need for that!  

Interesting. I’m a dentist....

From what I’ve heard it’s difficult for out of state dentists to get licensed in Hawaii. 

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11 hours ago, ChrisJordanDDS said:

Interesting. I’m a dentist....

From what I’ve heard it’s difficult for out of state dentists to get licensed in Hawaii. 

Hmmm, that would be too bad if it’s the case but then again wouldn’t surprise me. 

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So beautiful and lush Jason... fantastic work!

I am a bit jealous of your Orania.. I think if I can get a big enough one they will make it here.. I had a big one some time back that I planted out not too long before one of our coldest winters... I thought it died during the winter. Late that summer it was coming back and pushing a spear. It started to partially open... then a gopher ate it.. :rant: Taught me to cage everything..

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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4 minutes ago, BS Man about Palms said:

So beautiful and lush Jason... fantastic work!

I am a bit jealous of your Orania.. I think if I can get a big enough one they will make it here.. I had a big one some time back that I planted out not too long before one of our coldest winters... I thought it died during the winter. Late that summer it was coming back and pushing a spear. It started to partially open... then a gopher ate it.. :rant: Taught me to cage everything..

Thanks Bill!

jeff and suchin have some Orania for sale in 4” or 1 gallons but they are nice and healthy. I have one of those I was growing for that spot in my yard and then I found this big 15 gallon. Maybe order one from Jeff, pot it up and protect it for awhile. 

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3 minutes ago, Hilo Jason said:

Thanks Bill!

jeff and suchin have some Orania for sale in 4” or 1 gallons but they are nice and healthy. I have one of those I was growing for that spot in my yard and then I found this big 15 gallon. Maybe order one from Jeff, pot it up and protect it for awhile. 

Oops, I forgot to mention I picked up a couple of the longisquamas and trispathas from them a week ago. :D  Thanks, Great minds think alike! 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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32 minutes ago, BS Man about Palms said:

Oops, I forgot to mention I picked up a couple of the longisquamas and trispathas from them a week ago. :D  Thanks, Great minds think alike! 

Sweet! I hope they do great for you. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Planted a few more palms today.

3 gallon Cyphosperma Balansae

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Clinostigma Gronophyllum - I’m very excited about this one.  An incredible stilt-root Clinostigma that I’ve only seen one of at Floribunda. 

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And last planting for the day was another Cyphosperma Balansae. This one was a big 1 gallon plant that I put in the New Cal area of my yard. 

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New Cal area:

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I’ve got company for the next week but I’ll get back to planting and posting after that. 

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Awesome Palms, awesome view of Hilo harbor and some awesome waterfalls just blocks away. Thanks again for the tour!

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Looking good Jason! :shaka-2:

I need to find space for a couple of C. balansae as well......nice 1 gallons. 

Tim

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12 hours ago, Mark M @ S. Oceanside palms said:

Awesome Palms, awesome view of Hilo harbor and some awesome waterfalls just blocks away. Thanks again for the tour!

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It was great having you here Mark. Come back soon! 

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12 hours ago, Mark M @ S. Oceanside palms said:

I just read last night that lava flowed down this exact waterfall in the 1880 / 1881 eruption that came towards Hilo!  An eyewitness wrote of it making huge explosion sounds as it hit the water came down that stream! 

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8 hours ago, realarch said:

Looking good Jason! :shaka-2:

I need to find space for a couple of C. balansae as well......nice 1 gallons. 

Tim

Definitely need to squeeze one in.  Seems like they don’t get too big so I’m sure you can find a spot! 

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  • 2 weeks later...

A few new palms made it into the garden yesterday evening. 

Pinanga Declinata:

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Another view of Pinanga Declinata to show what’s around it: 

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Areca Guppyana:

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and this Verschafeltii was walking out of its 4” pot so I wanted to get it in the ground:

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although I don’t like armed palms in my garden, I made an exception for this one as I’ve had the opportunity to visit the Seychelles and really wanted a Seychelles palm in the yard and they are all armed with the exception of Lodoicea Maldivian and I won’t be able to get one of those!

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Thanks for looking. Hope everyone is having a good Spring and spending time outside!

more plantings soon....

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3 hours ago, Matt in OC said:

*furiously googles Pinanga declinata*

Exactly what I did when I found that plant at Floribunda on my last trip!  Not many photos online, although Palmpedia has some good habitat shots. Maybe I will start a thread for it and see if anyone else is growing it here on Palmtalk. From the description online it sounds like it might work for California as it’s a higher elevation plant and can take more cold. 

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@Hilo Jason It'd be great to get more info. Unfortunately it looks like plants and seed are still pretty rare. Can't wait to see how it does for you!

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7 minutes ago, Matt in OC said:

@Hilo Jason It'd be great to get more info. Unfortunately it looks like plants and seed are still pretty rare. Can't wait to see how it does for you!

I'll start a thread with pictures of the one I just planted and maybe we'll see some more that way, and get some more info.  Hopefully this grows quickly for me and I can be part of the process of getting more seed out there for this palm.  I have other Pinangas growing very quickly here, so I hope this does the same.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Planted a couple more palms today that were well rooted in their pots and ready to go in the ground. 

Dypsis Heteromorpha:

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In the ground:

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and Dypsis Hankona:

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In the ground (D. Heteromorpha behind to the left)

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Opposite angle of the Dypsis Hankona:

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thanks for looking. 

 

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On 5/11/2019 at 10:45 PM, Hilo Jason said:

Dypsis Heteromorpha:

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In the ground:

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Will be interesting to watch how fast these are over there in Hawaii.  Your Dypsis heteromorpha in Fallbrook got me looking for one here, and it has been among the faster clumping Dypsis for me, and by far one of the best looking in my climate.  It will also be interesting to see how thick the trunks get.  I remember Matty has a couple of forms, one with skinnier trunks and another with chunky trunky.  He is due for an updated post on his two different types.

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6 hours ago, Tracy said:

Will be interesting to watch how fast these are over there in Hawaii.  Your Dypsis heteromorpha in Fallbrook got me looking for one here, and it has been among the faster clumping Dypsis for me, and by far one of the best looking in my climate.  It will also be interesting to see how thick the trunks get.  I remember Matty has a couple of forms, one with skinnier trunks and another with chunky trunky.  He is due for an updated post on his two different types.

Hey Tracy,

In my opinion, the Heteromorpha in California look better than what I’ve seen here. They seem to be more colorful there compared to here in Hawaii. That’s why this is a late planting for me as I finally gave in and found a place for this in the garden. Not like California where it was in a prime spot there for me. 

In Fallbrook this was by far my best growing clumping dypsis.  We’ll see how this one does here. 

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what an amazing garden! i'm going to have to go through this thread a few times to enjoy it.

Just those those stumpy little fat areca dwarfs! 

I'm growing alot of similar seedlings, I hope to be able to do just what you have one day! Looking forward to some updates!! 

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A few more plantings to update here. The garden is filling up, but I’m always finding places to plant new palms.

Both of these palms below were bought as small 4” plants and were now rooted into 2 gallon pots. 

Satakentia liukiuensis:

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in the ground:

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Dypsis Marojejyi (mad fox):

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in the ground:

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the marojejyi was never 100% happy in its pot, so I’m hoping it performs better in the ground. 

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And just got these today and enjoyed planting them while it was raining lightly:

3 - Dypsis Mirabilis (entire leaf form)

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planted:

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wider angle of the planter they are in with the row of Pinanga Coronata behind them.  Masoala Madagascariensis on the left and Dypsis sp Ambanja on the right.

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Thanks for looking!

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  • 3 weeks later...

I’ve been busy planting again, here are a couple updates.

Marojejya Insignis:

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planted near my Marojejya Darianii:

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In California I grew a lot of Dypsis Ambositrae in my garden and 3 of them that I had there had much stiffer leaflets, more color and were fast growing. Leaflet thickness was comparable to Decipiens, not Ambositrae. Not sure what they were. Hybrids or just a variation. 

I found 2 of them here in 15 gallon pots. Most likely from the same seed batch that came in years ago that my California palms came from. 

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in the ground:

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and this is a double:

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planted:

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another angle with it on the left.  Dypsis Ampasindavae is on the right and that’s Dypsis Bejoufa in the middle - the slowest Dypsis in my garden! 

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Thanks for looking!

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Smiling and jealous everytime you update Jason. Thanks! :D

 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I have two of those palms in my yard.  No where near the size of your's but they are very fast.  3 fronds since I planted it in 6 months.

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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Jason,

you are creating a paradise within the paradise (Hawaii) ;) .

It is always a great pleasure to follow your updates - thank you very much!!

best regards from Okinawa (especially to your new Satakentia :) )

Lars

 

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3 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

Smiling and jealous everytime you update Jason. Thanks! :D

 

You’ve got to come and see it in person sometime!

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2 hours ago, joe_OC said:

I have two of those palms in my yard.  No where near the size of your's but they are very fast.  3 fronds since I planted it in 6 months.

The stiff leaf Ambositrae?  If so, that’s great to hear.  Such a nice palm!

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