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Potted coconut vs. 17 degrees F

 

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Palmsbro
1 hour ago, Tropicdoc said:

Potted coconut vs. 17 degrees F

 

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Why ... didn't ... you ... bring ... it inside?!?

It looks dead to me, and I am pretty sure it is.

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GottmitAlex
1 hour ago, Palmsbro said:

Why ... didn't ... you ... bring ... it inside?!?

It looks dead to me, and I am pretty sure it is.

This. 

It appears it had a good size to it.

Sorry for the loss.

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PalmatierMeg

17 degrees in a pot? It was dead 15 degrees earlier. A waste.

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Tropicdoc
4 hours ago, Palmsbro said:

Why ... didn't ... you ... bring ... it inside?!?

It looks dead to me, and I am pretty sure it is.

Yeah guys.... I know it’s dead. I knew it was dead when I saw the thermometer. With the pot they were both like 12-15 feet tall. They had outgrown the greenhouse and it was time to sacrifice them to the weather gods in exchange for a string of mild winters.

just sharing pics of the carnage. Enjoy!

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Moose
2 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

17 degrees in a pot? It was dead 15 degrees earlier. A waste.

Doomed :violin:

I've seen Coconuts in Miami get hurt by unusual cold events that take them a year or two to grow out of. They can take a temporary cold event for a few hours if it warms up. Like many of our cold fronts do. Two or three days in the mid thirties puts a whale of a hurting on them. They don't like cold, especially cold and wet.

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GottmitAlex
3 hours ago, Tropicdoc said:

Yeah guys.... I know it’s dead. I knew it was dead when I saw the thermometer. With the pot they were both like 12-15 feet tall. They had outgrown the greenhouse

Get a dwarf or a true dwarf variety. They won't outgrow your greenhouse. 

 

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IndoorPalms

Anything under 50 degrees can be a hazard...Florida is bad for having cold snaps, hence the many damaged/zombie palms across Orlando area after this past winter.

Ditto with Phoenix Arizona. Everyone knows it for being hot, but I spent the winter there and it can get frigid at night.  

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Moose
1 hour ago, GottmitAlex said:

Get a dwarf or a true dwarf variety. They won't outgrow your greenhouse. 

 

Dwarf varieties grow to a height of sixty feet. That is not a small palm. :huh:

Not too many 6 story greenhouses. Well, Kew has one. :rolleyes:

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GottmitAlex
8 hours ago, Moose said:

Dwarf varieties grow to a height of sixty feet. That is not a small palm. :huh:

Not too many 6 story greenhouses. Well, Kew has one. :rolleyes:

Fiji dwarf cocos will not trow 60 ft. Tall.

At least not for the first 30 years...

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DoomsDave

@Tropicdoc, sad to see, but time and space get to be a problem after a while. Send me a PM for free seeds of small palms that won't outgrow your greenhouse.

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Moose
36 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

Fiji dwarf cocos will not trow 60 ft. Tall.

At least not for the first 30 years...

20+ ft, trunking and fruiting for 5 years, planted in 2006 in the Mooseland from a three gallon container - 12 years. It's also a wide palm. Long fronds and petioles.

But that is not in California

If you desire to grow tortured mutant Coconuts, its your prerogative to do so.

Good luck with your endeavors.

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Tropicdoc

Didn’t mean to stir up debate. Just thought it was funny how the whole middle of the palms pulled up. The coconuts were fun while they lasted. It was like I could actually touch the tropics in my backyard. But I live where I live and it does get cold every now and then.

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krishnaraoji88

I’d be lying if I said I never did this before. They grow so fast and are cheap in the southern states that you can easily enjoy one for a few years and toss it when the big freeze comes!

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Moose
1 hour ago, Tropicdoc said:

Didn’t mean to stir up debate. Just thought it was funny how the whole middle of the palms pulled up. The coconuts were fun while they lasted. It was like I could actually touch the tropics in my backyard. But I live where I live and it does get cold every now and then.

 

21 minutes ago, krishnaraoji88 said:

I’d be lying if I said I never did this before. They grow so fast and are cheap in the southern states that you can easily enjoy one for a few years and toss it when the big freeze comes!

I understand. It's why florists do so well with cut flowers. :wub:

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krishnaraoji88
22 hours ago, Moose said:

 

I understand. It's why florists do so well with cut flowers. :wub:

Exactly. Even though I've been gardening only for a short time (~15 years) Ive had my plants wiped out by freezing, flooding, insects, etc. When it comes down to it non-native plants in most people's yards are just like cut flowers. They are there to enjoy and we want them to last as long as possible but the next big thing could come through and wipe them out. You can't sweat the small stuff.

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Mr. Coconut Palm
On ‎5‎/‎16‎/‎2018‎ ‎5‎:‎56‎:‎48‎, PalmatierMeg said:

17 degrees in a pot? It was dead 15 degrees earlier. A waste.

I have had several over the years smaller than that, that experienced 33F and 34F with light frost with little it any problems!  One that size should easily survive 31F or 32F in a pot!  But of course, NOT 17F or anything close to it!

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Tropicdoc

The pics are of 2 potted coconuts. They both survived 30 degrees with moderate browning. Had actually survived an early December snow! But I had decided I was done lugging them around etc. so I left them out even though the arctic express was bringing the coldest temps in 30 years down here. 

Of note.... they would spot up every fall when nighttime temps began to run in the low 60s. Probably why they do not grow well in California where nighttime temps are near that even mid summer.

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45 minutes ago, Tropicdoc said:

 

Of note.... they would spot up every fall when nighttime temps began to run in the low 60s. Probably why they do not grow well in California where nighttime temps are near that even mid summer.

You're right Tropicdoc. Not everywhere in Cali but yes, certain places in summertime are even below 50f...

Rumor has it that Cali sunset zone 23 is where the magic happens...

I don't know yet.

 

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