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The Old Men of Snapper Creek Park, Miami(FL) USA

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Three old men (Coccothrinax crinita) a few houses apart.

Picture 1 & 2 of same two palms. The smaller palm, the older one)is actually recovering quite well from a full storm toppling, 15 or so years ago.  For the last two years its has outgrown is younger colleague. Both produce seeds.

The third palm was added to the neighborhood a few weeks before Hurricane Irma.  It had a Irma-induced lean of about 30° off center, but was quickly righted.

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Moose

Yes, if no other flowering Coccothrinax around these should be self pollinated. No crosses.

Coccothrinax is a very promiscuous Genus. They will step out on their species.

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DoomsDave
2 hours ago, Moose said:

Yes, if no other flowering Coccothrinax around these should be self pollinated. No crosses.

Coccothrinax is a very promiscuous Genus. They will step out on their species.

Mustang Cocothrinax!

Jus' cain't tie 'em down; nuh uh!

Mustang Cocothrinax

Pollinatin' all over town

Alla' them hybrids, everywhere around . . . .

 

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Palmsbro
3 hours ago, Moose said:

Yes, if no other flowering Coccothrinax around these should be self pollinated. No crosses.

Coccothrinax is a very promiscuous Genus. They will step out on their species.

Coccothrinax argentata is supposed to be native at least in the FL Keys and much of Miami-Dade County, which is where these Coccothrinax crinita are, so there is definitely the possibility of crosses.

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Moose

There are very few of those natives around. Slower than Coccothrinax crinita. My C. argentata is 23 years planted and has just started to flower.

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Palmsbro
2 minutes ago, Moose said:

There are very few of those natives around. Slower than Coccothrinax crinita. My C. argentata is 23 years planted and has just started to flower.

I thought they would be more common. :wacko:

That is a long time just to flower (great that yours is! :)

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GottmitAlex
35 minutes ago, Moose said:

There are very few of those natives around. Slower than Coccothrinax crinita. My C. argentata is 23 years planted and has just started to flower.

I guess the B. Alfredii follows suit.

 

 

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Scott Cohen

it is difficult to get pure coccothrinax seed here, they cross very easily.

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Miami_grower

RE: PICTURES MISSING

When you go to the original listing, my link is here: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/56562-the-old-men-of-snapper-creek-park-miamifl-usa/  , the pictures are there.  They do not show when viewing a response.

Why? Mysterious, as noted above.. PCP at work (Pixel Conservation Program)  ;)

 

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kurt decker

Actually, it is quite easy to get pure coccothrinax seed in South Florida. There are lots of hybrids in the batches at times, but most of the seedlings, for whatever reason, were self-pollinated. It is always easy to tell the hybrids by the time they are 1 gallon size. They usually grow faster than anything else in the batch regardless of species, and seldom closely resemble the species they are supposed to be. All it takes is the necessary discipline to throw them away. I throw away hundreds every year. It sucks. They are beautiful. They grow fast. But I don't want to be the guy that distributes hybrid coccothrinax.

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TexasColdHardyPalms

Just bag the inflorescence with a Tyvek pollination bag and that should do the trick.  We use those bags when produce mule seed.

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