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Scott

When planning the garden, what is the width that should be given for a Bismarkia to grow in.

I have 38' length yard, and I thought of planting it between two Bambusa Oldhamii's. I've heard that 10' should be allocated for eventual growth of this giant timber bamboo.

Also, thought, if it's rhizomes upset and harmed the Bizzie, I wouldn't be happy to say the least.

Which makes me think, maybe I should just plant a few washies there instead.

My real problem is that the need for shade is the reason my prime sun area is being given over to the bamboo.

Am I trying to put too much into this area?

On one end I already have a Roebellenii (clumping),  a single Chamerops, and a King.

I still have to find space for my giant bird ( S. Nicolai), a banana, a Butia, two more Roebelenii's, and my two Queen's (only about 2' tall right now).

Planning this stuff is not as easy as I thought! ???

Thanks!

Scott

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Jeff Searle

Scott,

    I would leave a good 10-12 feet so they grow properly. Plus it looks like they would be the focal point of your garden. Don't crowd them.

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Kris

Dear Scott,

I fully agree with Jeff Searle.

and scott its very thoughtful of you to ask before proceeding.always ask suggestions and ideas from your friends and then do what suits your taste.

And my best wishes for your Biz(hope its a silver form)  :)

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GREENHAND

12 FEET , HMMM  i hope i did not plant this one to close to other plants,

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ania

I got me a Biz yesterday too. Our local Home Depot sold them for 95 bucks. I couldn't resist. The Biz is quite big, probably 3 feet tall. I have the same problem with spacing. I have in my front lawn the following. A giant Crape Myrtle tree, Brahea armata, Ch. humilis, Jubaea chilensis, Phoenix (?) I don't know the species . It is grown from the seed picked from the North Shore, Oahu. There is also Mexican Grass Tree. How many feet should I plant it from the nearest palm? The note that came with the Biz says that it should be 30-40 feet, if that is so, I am in big trouble.

Anna

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GREENHAND

the home depot by my house also has the 95.00 ones to  but now they say 25% off if i wait a little longer they will go to 50% off the garden worker told me.  we will see

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Fred Zone 10A
There is also Maxican Grass Tree. How many feet should I plant it from the nearest palm?

Ania, your Dasylirion is a desert plant and is going to want full, full sun and not much water.  Make sure you plant it where there is good drainage and your palms won't shade it out.

Greenhand, are you sure your Bizzie is going to survive Dallas winters?  They are hardy to only 28 degrees.  I lived in Dallas many years ago and I remember it getting VERY cold.

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GREENHAND

what up fred , this bizzie is in south central tx 8b so it may have a better chance, although it will be touch and go. this cathea coopera made it from last winter at 19 deg . the bizzie would have to be procted heavely,

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PalmsZA

Hi Scott

Sun is the best place to grow most palms. Biz, Brahea, lots of Dypsis the list goes on......get rid of the water loving bamboo and get some sun loving palms in there. Palms make the best dappled shade around!

Cheers

Dennis

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Scott

Thanks for all the info!  I was looking at a web site from a garden in Thailand - not that there's any relation to Thailand and the San fernando valley, but....  The Bizmarkia's in this photo, are they fully grown? because they look very close together.

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bgl

Beautiful view! Looks like Nong Nooch. But considering the angle, difficult to tell the distance between the Bismarckias. My guess is that there's sufficient room between them.

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elHoagie

The mature Bismarckias I've seen have a spread of probably 6-8m from tip to tip, so I would plant it at least 4m from other plants if you don't want any overlap.  They grow pretty fast, so in a few years you can probably start planting understory palms below the Biz...

Jack

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Scott

Jack- 4 Meters is what I'll go by. Thanks!

Bo- That is Nong Nooch. Here is the web site that I 'lifted' that from. There's many more beautiful pictures.

Nong Nooch Tropical Gardens

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iwan

Scott,

Some rhizome barrier should keep the oldhamii in check at whatever distance you desire from the Bizmarkia.

Robert

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Kris

Dear Scott,  :)

I have seen those nice pictures in one of our members thai visit and their date with the oranga tong ! but i should praise your presence of mind for placing that photo at right point of discussion.

And now to that photo that is a long distance ariel shot which is of no use for us to take it seriously for measuring biz distance in cultivation ?

It is clear to me that a minium of 6 to 8 feet is there.which is hidden to our eyes due to the beautiful leaves of biz almost touching each other.

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