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Possible spear jam on Archontophoenix Alexandrae


kinzyjr

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I commented on a few other threads that my archontophoenix alexandrae looked fine after our 28F advective freeze in January.  Some leaf tip burn, but overall healthy.  About a month later, I noticed the spear starting to get brown streaks and gave it a tug.  There was some movement, so I gave it a sharper tug and it came out with the entire bottom being brown and mushy.  I peroxided the hole, and it bubbled profusely.  The next day, I sprayed the hole full of copper fungicide.  One side of the crownshaft had a brown streak on it, probably from cold/wind damage.  At this point, that brown streak is splitting from a bulge in the crownshaft. 

Surgery necessary on this one to clear a jam?

Anyone have any input? 

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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@Palmsbro I could probably peel the frond to the right off without too much tissue damage using my trusty light saber, but I have a feeling the only way I'll find resolution on this issue is just to bite the bullet and perform the surgery.  As it stands, the palm will not live if I don't figure out a way to get it to move a spear after the spear pull, so if I lose it then it was lost anyways.  If it goes, I'll probably put a phoenix theophrasti there in its place. 

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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Post-surgical picture:

 

20180415_193900_Archontophoenix_surgery.jpg

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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51 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

Post-surgical picture:

 

20180415_193900_Archontophoenix_surgery.jpg

I hope that it lives. That center (the top part) doesn't look very well-off.

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Cut it down to fresh white meat and hit it with hydrogen peroxide.  You should be able to tell if it's growing within a few hours.

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Matt Bradford

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Good luck man, it would be a shame to lose it. I really like the look of Archontophoenix but I've repeatedly struck out with them. They don't seem to be a good match for the climate here. 

Westchase | 9b 10a  ◆  Nokomis | 10a  ◆  St. Petersburg | 10a 10b 

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1 hour ago, MattyB said:

Cut it down to fresh white meat and hit it with hydrogen peroxide.  You should be able to tell if it's growing within a few hours.

Thank you, @MattyB.  I'll finish cutting and disinfecting tomorrow.  With the rain moving through, the mosquitoes are taking no prisoners tonight.

3 minutes ago, RedRabbit said:

Good luck man, it would be a shame to lose it. I really like the look of Archontophoenix but I've repeatedly struck out with them. They don't seem to be a good match for the climate here. 

Thanks man!  If it doesn't, I'll probably just replace it with one of my phoenix theophrasti.  I was very surprised that it started declining after it showed relatively little damage for that nasty freeze, but I knew right away what had happened when the spear started to get a brown streak in it.  Time will tell, and I'll keep this updated.

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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Whoa 

Radical surgery

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As a closer to the thread, I did trim what was left of the palm down, but anything I trimmed was brown.  I decided to cut my effort and my losses dig it out.  Put one of my phoenix theophrasti in the hole and filled it in.  I appreciate the guidance from @MattyB and the well wishes and comments.

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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Best of luck Kinzyjr. I think you got this 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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