So I acquired this Encephalartos hybrid as a 1 or 2 leaf seedling in a band size container (3" x 9") several years ago. It has proven to be a good grower. I acquired it as a hybrid of an E blue arenarius x latifrons. I have always wondered about how blue it is because I don't recall many 1st generation hybrids of green species with blue actually being such an intense blue. Now as a caudex is beginning to appear, I noticed the orange colored ring collars (see photos below). When I see that color on a collar of a blue cycad, I immediately think of E lehmannii. The leaflets are much narrower than what I would expect if there were any latifrons in the mix. So perhaps some sort of lehmanii x horridus or lehmanii x trispinosis? I might consider lehmanii and the other purported parent latifrons.
So am I reading too much into that collar color? Since I have been thinking about this for a while I wanted to see if anyone else got one of these and has had similar thoughts. I'm happy with the plant whatever it turns out to be, just based on structure and color, but I am curious about it's parentage. At some point I'll have additional clues when it gets to coning size but that's quite a few flushes and years away.
These eggs or whatever they are appear to be woven into the threads of my Brahea leaf, too well placed to be some trick from the kids or anything. Any ideas?
Hi, first of all I apologise if I am not allowed to post here, or ask about seeds in this thread. I am not an IPS member, although I may join soon. Hopefully this thread does not get removed.
I have been having a nightmare the past few years trying to obtain certain hybrid seeds. It is still very difficult over here in the UK to source certain palms, especially hybrids. There are a number of types I have been looking out for, but I have not been able to get hold of them. For ages they were not available on RarePalmSeeds, then when I did finally manage to order some, the package never arrived. I also finally spotted some Jubaea x Syagrus on the bay, which I promptly ordered, however I was sent regular Jubaea seeds that still have not germinated after 9 months. Likewise, I ordered some mule palm seeds as well but received regular Butia Odorata. Only 1 has germinated so far and it is definitely Butia and not a cross breed with Syagrus. So that is incredibly disappointing.
Some of the ones I have been trying in vein to get for years now...
- Butia x Jubaea
- Butia x Parajubaea
- Butia x Syagrus Rom AKA 'Butyagrus' (priority)
- Jubaea x Syagrus Rom (priority)
- Jubaea x Butia x Syagrus Rom (Priority)
- Parajubaea x Jubaea
- Any other interesting cold hardy hybrids
If anyone has any seed of these going, or similar type crosses, I will happily pay for them. Or please do point me in the right direction of someone I can get them from. As mentioned, I have had a really hard time sourcing these here in the UK. Due to Brexit, the pandemic and now bans on palm imports, there is now a big palm shortage over here and imports are really difficult. EU countries are required to quarantine palms under strict conditions for at least 2 years before they can be sent to the UK, so many places no longer sell to the UK. So there is a shortage for anything besides Trachycarpus and CIDP. That means I have to go down the seed route, of which my efforts have so far been in vein. Hopefully someone has some of these seeds?
Many thanks, Ben
Hello, I was wondering if the color of the stem at seedling size can identify which characteristics the palm will have (filifera or robusta)
you can see mine is almost entirely green but with a slight hue of red, where as some of my others are clearly red
I was fortunate enough to grab some mule palms from Moultrie Palms in St. Augustine a few weeks back.
Since I knew a bit about palms (thanks to palmtalk), Frank & Elaine showed my wife and I around the rest of the grounds and the work he was doing.
He had his mules all over but in the special section of his squirrel cage, he had butia x jubeas as well as a dozen of these butia x jubea x schizophylla in which he let us take one of them.
If I recall correctly, he used the seeds from a butia x jubea and pollinated them with a syagrus schizophylla. I could be wrong about the hybridization process but I think that was what he said. He also made sure I understood he has no idea how this palm will turn out or which set of genetics will end up being the most prominent.
But I thought it was pretty cool and figured people here would be interested in following the progress of this hybrid as the years go by.
It's going to stay potted for now but enough of me talking... here are some pics.