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These are the palms around my yard, most of the big ones my mom planted in the 70s or 80s. I've been enhancing the collection with stuff from all over, I visited Jungle Music in San Diego and got quite a few things there, just did a order from Floribunda, also I have a big collection of south american tropicals from the andes and amazon. 

Well without further adieu here's some of my best shots...Most are gonna be from before the freeze ;)

Ill post more as I find em.

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Steve Mac

Crikey, it's a jungle. Is it safe to go out there after dark?

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RedRabbit

Nice garden. Those are some good pics, I especially like the ones with fog. :greenthumb:

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Hammer

Looking good.  I hope my place looks that lush some day. 

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Missi

What a gorgeous property! :wub:

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Chatta

Thanks guys! haha yes its safe to go out at night, but pretty dark... We get some ok stars, lots of light pollution from just about everywhere now.
We are in the middle of a remodel with some new landscapping so I'm adding a lot of stuffs... will post all that when its done.

here's some more stuffs couple things I bought from Jungle Music when I visited San Diego: archontophoenix  Terrocarpa, Bolivian Coconut, and a medjool, the other is a sylvester I bought at the USF Plant sale

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PalmTreeDude

:drool:

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CB Lisa

What a nice property! Very nice choices on what’s been done...a fabulous foundation with SO much potential! That place could definitely keep you (and your mom?) pretty busy for a long, long time!!! :P

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Chatta

Such kind words....

Since you speak of the foundation. This was a working citrus grove uintil the mid 80s. Here's some aerial shots from the dacades before I was born.


Forgot this pick its the front of the property... I wanted to also show you what it was before... It was a working citrus grove until the mid 80s when those nasty freezes wiped out a ton of good stuff all across FL. Most of this before I was born.... But heres an aerial shot from 1976, 1986 and 2017
 

I am definitly gonna be super busy!! :) Thanks again for all the kindness

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kinzyjr

Awesome shots all the way around man!  Can hardly wait to see it in person!

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Missi

HOW COOL!!! :yay:

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bubba

Also, Great Lake!

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Chatta

Got this Mule Palm in the ground that @Tampa Scott gave me :) and got this beautiful crytostachys from @Jeff Searle to be a accent plant to the house and temporary indoor plant in winter :) Maybe its my xmas tree who knows...
 

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Jeff Searle

I think with all the big trees, you have a lot of potential there. Water and fertilizer is the upmost important factors. Do your homework and find the species you can grow there. There's plenty. Beccariophoenix alfredii, Chamerops, Butia, Needle palms, even a couple of Licuala species.

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Missi
16 hours ago, Chatta said:

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:yay::drool::wub:

Needs to be set in one of those colorful painted clay pots from Mexico...then...beyond perfection as an accent for that pretty house!

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Tampa Scott
On ‎3‎/‎19‎/‎2018‎ ‎8‎:‎16‎:‎33‎, Chatta said:

Got this Mule Palm in the ground that @Tampa Scott gave me :) and got this beautiful crytostachys from @Jeff Searle to be a accent plant to the house and temporary indoor plant in winter :) Maybe its my xmas tree who knows...
 

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 Looking good!

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Chatta

Some freshly planted stuffs, some older bigger stuffs.

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Chatta

my dad and I got this area looking nice today, the 2 little palms are teddy bear dypsis and red neck dypsis, I may put 1 more of them in this row or something else thats tall and skinny. 

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Palmaceae
On 6/5/2018, 12:38:06, Chatta said:

my dad and I got this area looking nice today, the 2 little palms are teddy bear dypsis and red neck dypsis, I may put 1 more of them in this row or something else thats tall and skinny. 

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Hello Joseph,

Is that Archontophoenix you got from me?

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Chatta

unfortunately no, that one didnt make the transplant :(

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PalmTreeDude

And the jungle grows! 

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Palmaceae
5 minutes ago, Chatta said:

unfortunately no, that one didnt make the transplant :(

Oh no! How about the saribus?

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Chatta

 

2 minutes ago, Palmaceae said:

Oh no! How about the saribus?

that one too didn't make it :( 

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Chatta

I been getting some neat palms from a guy in St Pete off of Ebay, he's been givin me some really nice plants, just got this carpoxylon macrospermum and sabal mauritiformis.

I'm also playing with the distancing on the row of dypsis red necks and teddy bears, maybe only doing 2 maybe 4, i think they are spaced a lil close. From what I've seen at Selby they spaced them like 14' or so apart. I believe I saw 2 closely planted at Sunken and a row of closely planted ones in Gulfport, not sure what I like better.

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Chatta

think its time for some updated photos
Not everything but a lot hope you all enjoy.
Renda
L. Chinensis
L. Australlis
African Oil Palm
Borassius A.
Attalea Cohune
L. rigida
cat palm & mule palm
b. alfredii

teddy bear

teddy bear redneck v. arecina king palm

v. arecina
queen palms triange palms

a. vestiaria

d. plumosa?
Royal palm (cant believe how much its grown)

Coconut palm
alexander palm v. arecina

dwarf areca catechu

c. macrospermum

kentia palm
foxy lady

c. gigas
flame thrower

l. peltata

k. olivifromis

c. savoryanum

various palms

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Chatta

Some more I forgot about
Big thanks to Rob Branch, Faith, Mike Evans, Zeeth, Robert Hernandez, Frank, Rob, Jeff Searle, Jeff Marcus, kinzyjr, RedRabbit and all my other favorite vendors and everyone who encourages me to push my zone.

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kinzyjr

@Chatta Nice work man!  You've been keeping busy for sure!

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Rd003

@Chatta lovely plot bursting with potential! I was curious if the dark maroon/brown coloration is normal on young Dypsis plumosa? Mine looks almost identical, still has a moving spear, but is a dead looking color. Not used to intensely colored Dypsis that are brownish (only hues of red)

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RedRabbit

You’re quickly putting together one of the top gardens around. I look forward to seeing it in 5 years after your palms get some more size to them, it’s going to be awesome. :greenthumb:

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Mr. Coconut Palm

Looking really good and very lush and tropical looking.  I envy your rainfall there.

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Chatta

Thanks for the comments guys! wow i'm blushing!

I have a question for you guys!! What should go in this spot? I've so far planted a c. macrospermum might plant that K. Oliviformis there, but wondering what else could go there? This seems like a really great spot for something cold sensitive as its right under an oak tree, right at the lake (in winter the lake is usually up a lot more). It is facing south (north shore of the lake) and wind can be quite wicked in summertime.

I have quite a bit of options on hand but also wondering if theres something i should try and find.
My options for planting in that spot are pinanaga philippensis, Heterospathe philipensis, red neck dypsis, teddy bear dypsis, e. edulis, sygarus ruschiana.
If I wait for these sakentia seedlings i have to grow that might also be a good spot, but mine are very small and may be years before i could plant them.
I regularly hit the low 30s in winter just as a fyi, I might be conisdered more of a warm 9b than a 10a, but a 9b winter seems to be very rare these days.
 

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kinzyjr

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If the Satakentia was ready, my vote would go that way.  If you don't want to wait, my tie for second choice would be Dypsis leptocheilos (Teddy bear) or Dypsis lastelliana (Redneck). It wouldn't hurt to use the border there and fill the area in to raise the soil level a few inches in case we have a wet year.

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Chatta
1 hour ago, kinzyjr said:

@Chatta

If the Satakentia was ready, my vote would go that way.  If you don't want to wait, my tie for second choice would be Dypsis leptocheilos (Teddy bear) or Dypsis lastelliana (Redneck). It wouldn't hurt to use the border there and fill the area in to raise the soil level a few inches in case we have a wet year.

That brings up an excellent question I meant to ask, which would be can a carpoxylon handle a flood? that part of the yard may only be underwater for a few days but not much more than that. With how wet its been in recent years, i would definitly count for the lake to at least cover it temporarily as it did this year and in 2015.

Looks like ive had at least 6 years with above 50" of rain, 3 above 60" which seems like a lot for Tampa Bay but I appear to be just outside of the dry ring.

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kinzyjr
11 minutes ago, Chatta said:

That brings up an excellent question I meant to ask, which would be can a carpoxylon handle a flood? that part of the yard may only be underwater for a few days but not much more than that. With how wet its been in recent years, i would definitly count for the lake to at least cover it temporarily as it did this year and in 2015.

Looks like ive had at least 6 years with above 50" of rain, 3 above 60" which seems like a lot for Tampa Bay but I appear to be just outside of the dry ring.

I'll have to cede the answer to the Carpoxylon question to another poster with more knowledge of that species.  @RedRabbit?  They are native to lowland tropical forests, so I'd theorize that they survive temporary flooding in their native habitat.

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There are a bunch over here, but if it flooded where the bulk of them are planted, our city would have to be almost underwater.

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RedRabbit

That really is a great spot for something more cold sensitive. I probably wouldn’t do the dypsis, euterpe, or sygrus as they’re probably cold tolerant enough to go elsewhere. I’m not familiar with the first 2 to be honest. 

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RedRabbit
1 minute ago, kinzyjr said:

I'll have to cede the answer to the Carpoxylon question to another poster with more knowledge of that species.  @RedRabbit?  They are native to lowland tropical forests, so I'd theorize that they survive temporary flooding in their native habitat.

https://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Carpoxylon_macrospermum

There are a bunch over here, but if it flooded where the bulk of them are planted, our city would have to be almost underwater.

No clue unfortunately, I’d defer to @Eric in Orlando or @Silas_Sancona.

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Silas_Sancona
8 minutes ago, RedRabbit said:

No clue unfortunately, I’d defer to @Eric in Orlando or @Silas_Sancona.

Would defer to @Eric in Orlando, others in South FL. w/ better hands on experience w/ these.. Only ones i got familiar with are the pair in Kopsick's collection. ( would be great if someone wandered over there and took some updated pics, ..nudge nudge, lol :D)

To be safe, i myself would plant them further up from the water line ..where they can seek water lower in the soil, but aren't subject to any flooding / flooding of any duration. Much too nice of a palm to take a chance on, at least until you see how the one(s) you have perform for you.  Again though, Eric or others might have differing thoughts to add.

Your yard looks great, btw..  Looking forward to watching this garden grow.

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Chatta

Thanks so much for the feedback!! I have a line of trees to plant more cold sensitive stuff too as it goes up a hill.
Ill try to get over to Kopsick sometime this week.  @Silas_Sancona Thanks for your comments :) :) :)
Heres a list of cold sensitive palms I have I could plant, some of these I'm not sure if they should remain in pots or not... But maybe we can figure that out XD
This spot would get brunt of a tropical storm winds so wind sensitive palms would also not be a good idea.

Corypha Utans
H. begunni
Itaya amicorum (did not handle winter very well 33.9F)
Verschaffelta splendifida (Did not handle this winter very well hit 33.9F)
Joey Palm (wind sensitive?)
ptychosperma schefferi
veitchia metiti
hetereospathe philipensis
pinanga philipnesis
dypsis orange crush
dypsis bejoof
dypsis baby red
pinanga cornata
pinanga speciosa
areca macrocaylx (probably not warm enough for this)
areca vestiaria (probably not warm enough for this)
areca catechu (probably not warm enough for this)
areca dwarf catechu (probably not warm enough for this)
pelagodoxa elegans (I think cant remember what this is)
other mystery palm I think these last 2 are both from Mike Evans.

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HtownPalms

Wow! Thats one heck of a collection! 

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Chatta

I ended up planting the Hetereospathe Philippensis next to the carpoxlyon, then in front of one of the canary date palms I planted the Kentiopsis Oliviformis, and next to this queen palm I planted the Veitchia Metiti. I'm gonna cut some branches and some thin trees down in the jungle inbetween the two properties that leads down to the lake and plant some more stuff soon. I also planted an ecnphelartis, a screw pine, and some other stuff not pictured. Will try to get pictures of all the recent plantings and clearings. Made some new paths, working on a new garden. Though I lost my job, i'm staying really busy, and my online plant store has doing well... Hoping to start offering palms soon. Will be listing Licuala Ramsayii Seedlings (I think), and possibly some others soon. Archontophoenix sp. Seedlings, cocothrinax sp. seedlings, veitchia arecina seedlings... If any of you are interested i'll post links.

I got visited by the great Rob Branch not too long ago, he told me the Maroon Leaf Areca Vestiarias are a bit more cold hardy then we thought, I'm curious what anyone knows about how cold they can take? I follow Sydney's Tropical Botanical Garden ( I think the Royal?) They posted about theirs taking down to about 40F last year.

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