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Ptychosperma ID 12-24-27


DoomsDave

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Here’s a Ptychosperma I found in my inventory; anyone have a thought as to species?

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Wow, that's a looker Dave. Looked at first like my caryotoides, but I don't think they cluster. I'm alway lookin for Ptychos that can survive in our area. They look great & don't take up much space..

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16 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Here’s a Ptychosperma I found in my inventory

Whichever it is, you have rediscovered a winner:  it has survived the garden of doom, and is attractive! :D  It will be interesting to find out what species it is, because as Jim pointed out, it would be an appealing addition to many gardens; especially knowing that it has survived with no special attention.

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2 hours ago, tjwalters said:

P. burretianum?  Doesn't look quite like my P. waitianum, seen here: 

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It sure looks like it might be. That’s the closest resemblance I found in palmpedia.

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1 hour ago, quaman58 said:

Wow, that's a looker Dave. Looked at first like my caryotoides, but I don't think they cluster. I'm alway lookin for Ptychos that can survive in our area. They look great & don't take up much space..

 

51 minutes ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

How about Ptychosperma linaera?

I have one and does very well for me.

Whatever it is, it surely is a pretty one.

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45 minutes ago, Tracy said:

Whichever it is, you have rediscovered a winner:  it has survived the garden of doom, and is attractive! :D  It will be interesting to find out what species it is, because as Jim pointed out, it would be an appealing addition to many gardens; especially knowing that it has survived with no special attention.

Sometimes Santa gives you an inventory of what you already have. It was half buried in deep shade under the Giant Mule of Doom. That appears to have been very much to its liking.

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4 hours ago, quaman58 said:

Wow, that's a looker Dave. Looked at first like my caryotoides, but I don't think they cluster. I'm alway lookin for Ptychos that can survive in our area. They look great & don't take up much space..

I'm Psycho for Ptychos!

I've got about a dozen species in the ground, both single and clustering types. The ones from the New Guinea highlands seem to do particularly well. If you can get a Beccariophoenix window type to prosper, you should have pretty good luck with almost all of them.

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Anyone have any thoughts?

About ID?

 

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burretianum and waitianum have the cuneate leaf tips, but they also reliably have very red new leaves. I'm trying to recall what the monograph was called, but Zona was the, or one of the, authors.

 

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The description of Ptychosperma was published by Essig in Allertonia in 1978. I had a copy but can't find it.

 

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165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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Perhaps cuneatum, the new Palms book lists cuneatum as clumping, unlike the old Palms, which said they were solitary.

 

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9 hours ago, mike in kurtistown said:

Perhaps cuneatum, the new Palms book lists cuneatum as clumping, unlike the old Palms, which said they were solitary.

 

Agreed with cuneatum

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Mike nailed it

Dave u probably got this from Jeff M?

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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15 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

Mike nailed it

Dave u probably got this from Jeff M?

Well. it is clumping, heavily. I have another labeled as cuneatum, which is a lot more, er, cuneate . . . .

No clue where it came from. David Bowie might have brought it to me when he fell to Earth.

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3 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

it is clumping, heavily. I have another labeled as cuneatum, which is a lot more, er, cuneate . . . .

No clue where it came from. David Bowie might have brought it to me when he fell to Earth.

Well that would explain everything

ha!

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If you're gonna fall to earth, might as well just fall.

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