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could this be the one of tallest CIDP in florida?

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Mr.SamuraiSword

i was google mapping around inverness where i went last spring and i found this absolutly HUGE CIDP growing in a dense mess of plants and moss.  how old do u suppose this is and how tall? thanks 

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8997078,-82.5977294,3a,30y,96.7h,95.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh24qpTRhopO9UGnZTJPbCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8998834,-82.5966876,3a,25.5y,226.5h,94.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soU9U7GsDgXEEenjdKKeeFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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DoomsDave

Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932

Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida?

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Eric in Orlando

That is tall for Florida. But they appear to  be hybrids, probably with P. sylvestris.

If fusarium doesn't get them then lightning does in Florida.

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Eric in Orlando

The tallest I have seen in Florida are growing by the Taber Public Library in Macclenny, about 20 miles west of Jacksonville. This building is the old Baker County Courthouse, built in 1908.

 

 

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Mr.SamuraiSword
1 hour ago, DoomsDave said:

Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932

Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida?

that thing is massive!! lightning usually does kill them in florida and canary island date palms dont usually do well in florida so seeing one this old is rare.

16 minutes ago, Eric in Orlando said:

The tallest I have seen in Florida are growing by the Taber Public Library in Macclenny, about 20 miles west of Jacksonville. This building is the old Baker County Courthouse, built in 1908.

 

 

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those are quite tall too!  it seems more north you go the older date palms are.  until u get to the panhandle anyway

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Kris

Dear Eric beautiful visuals. No doubt I love these palms for ever.

Thanks for visuals gentlemen.

Love,

Kris.

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Palm crazy
7 hours ago, Mr.SamuraiSword said:

that thing is massive!! lightning usually does kill them in florida and canary island date palms dont usually do well in florida so seeing one this old is rare.

those are quite tall too!  it seems more north you go the older date palms are.  until u get to the panhandle anyway

Since Tampa to Orlando is the capital of lighting strikes it makes sense northern FL would have the tallest CIDP.  Nice photos Eric. 

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Dave-Vero

Lightning and erratic temperatures.   Jacksonville's Riverside used to have some whoppers.  Looks like they're gone.   New Zealand has few old Canary Islands, but some are striking, like this perfect set of four at the war memorial in Akaroa.  https://www.google.com/maps/@-43.805702,172.966823,3a,75y,286.08h,91.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s316z2b7r_mglg50k0fCaCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

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Palmaceae
20 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932

Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida?

Wow Dave, that CIDP must be ancient.

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Cocoa Beach Jason
On 11/30/2017, 1:26:25, DoomsDave said:

Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932

Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida?

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Thats crazy. It looks like those would fall over with a slight breeze. 

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Matthew92

There's quite a tall one by Florida standards in front of a place called The Ivy House in Williston. Am in N. Central FL right now and drove by it. Will stop by on the way back to take pictures up close.

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Sir Oxylon

Phoenix canariensis is one of the most commonly planted palms in Melbourne Australia. I don't recall seeing anything quite as tall as that Californian monster but in Victoria it looks like they may put on more bulk in the trunk (so larger diameter trunks) than elsewhere perhaps. They are probably the largest palms by volume in Victoria and large ones here are quite impressive. There are some impressive avenues of these in Melbourne. The one along Mt Alexander Road is probably the best:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@-37.7527848,144.9157011,3a,75y,350.65h,92.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s988XkZJUqqAMbYJoJi2z4A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D988XkZJUqqAMbYJoJi2z4A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D322.43588%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

It runs for about 600 metres (1/3 mile) between Grice Cres and Marco Polo St along Mt Alexander Road. 

There are larger individuals in Melbourne. Here is a decent one. It is taller than a Cedrus atlantica to the left and is around the height of the building to the right of it. It is in the center of the shot-not thne best shot.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@-37.8003871,144.9634272,3a,60y,10.35h,103.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWYORZlDuFpqIXcmUMwnm9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

There may be larger but large plants are so common here that I think most people in Melbourne don't take much notice of them.

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Sir Oxylon

I don't think they are canariensis. Probably sylvestris or dactylifera with suckers pruned out.

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PalmTreeDude
On 11/30/2017, 1:26:25, DoomsDave said:

Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932

Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida?

I think that these are when CIDPs looks the best IMO, ancient, not in the way of things on the ground, and just amazing to see!

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PalmTreeDude
On 11/30/2017, 2:14:26, Eric in Orlando said:

The tallest I have seen in Florida are growing by the Taber Public Library in Macclenny, about 20 miles west of Jacksonville. This building is the old Baker County Courthouse, built in 1908.

 

 

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I also like the like this!

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DoomsDave
2 hours ago, PalmTreeDude said:

I think that these are when CIDPs looks the best IMO, ancient, not in the way of things on the ground, and just amazing to see!

There's more big ones like that than you think.

This one's a few miles from my house of horrah.

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Missi

There is an insanely tall one in Naples, off Orange Blossom Drive. It's growing on the edge of a large pond. I feel like it has got to be taller than any already in this thread. You can't see it in this, but it's located far back among the vegetation in the left center of this Google Earth image. I happened to spot it because I'm always surveying the trees for birds and other wildlife as I'm stuck in slow traffic.
https://www.google.com/maps/@26.2327,-81.7616912,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHPHD0CCrEsPcFUmeEpau9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

EDIT: Oh, I think it you go a small ways further up the street in this Google Earth link, you can see a bit of its crown peeking out from behind tree canopies.
https://www.google.com/maps/@26.232698,-81.7614821,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXmCSChvQNe6NekfsGq8mMA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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Eric in Orlando
18 hours ago, Sir Oxylon said:

I don't think they are canariensis. Probably sylvestris or dactylifera with suckers pruned out.

 

I agree, those look like P. sylvestris.

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Matthew92

Williston, FL. In front of a restaurant called The Ivy House.

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46 minutes ago, PalmTreeDude said:

That would be a King palm, Archontophoenix, probably alexandrae.

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2 hours ago, Palmaceae said:

That would be a King palm, Archontophoenix, probably alexandrae.

Thank you. 

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