Mr.SamuraiSword 1,120 Report post Posted November 30, 2017 i was google mapping around inverness where i went last spring and i found this absolutly HUGE CIDP growing in a dense mess of plants and moss. how old do u suppose this is and how tall? thanks https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8997078,-82.5977294,3a,30y,96.7h,95.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh24qpTRhopO9UGnZTJPbCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8998834,-82.5966876,3a,25.5y,226.5h,94.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soU9U7GsDgXEEenjdKKeeFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoomsDave 8,785 Report post Posted November 30, 2017 Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall. https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932 Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric in Orlando 4,011 Report post Posted November 30, 2017 That is tall for Florida. But they appear to be hybrids, probably with P. sylvestris. If fusarium doesn't get them then lightning does in Florida. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric in Orlando 4,011 Report post Posted November 30, 2017 The tallest I have seen in Florida are growing by the Taber Public Library in Macclenny, about 20 miles west of Jacksonville. This building is the old Baker County Courthouse, built in 1908. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.SamuraiSword 1,120 Report post Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, DoomsDave said: Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall. https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932 Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida? that thing is massive!! lightning usually does kill them in florida and canary island date palms dont usually do well in florida so seeing one this old is rare. 16 minutes ago, Eric in Orlando said: The tallest I have seen in Florida are growing by the Taber Public Library in Macclenny, about 20 miles west of Jacksonville. This building is the old Baker County Courthouse, built in 1908. those are quite tall too! it seems more north you go the older date palms are. until u get to the panhandle anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 1,365 Report post Posted December 1, 2017 Dear Eric beautiful visuals. No doubt I love these palms for ever. Thanks for visuals gentlemen. Love, Kris. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palm crazy 1,363 Report post Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mr.SamuraiSword said: that thing is massive!! lightning usually does kill them in florida and canary island date palms dont usually do well in florida so seeing one this old is rare. those are quite tall too! it seems more north you go the older date palms are. until u get to the panhandle anyway Since Tampa to Orlando is the capital of lighting strikes it makes sense northern FL would have the tallest CIDP. Nice photos Eric. Edited December 1, 2017 by Palm crazy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave-Vero 656 Report post Posted December 1, 2017 Lightning and erratic temperatures. Jacksonville's Riverside used to have some whoppers. Looks like they're gone. New Zealand has few old Canary Islands, but some are striking, like this perfect set of four at the war memorial in Akaroa. https://www.google.com/maps/@-43.805702,172.966823,3a,75y,286.08h,91.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s316z2b7r_mglg50k0fCaCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palmaceae 2,477 Report post Posted December 1, 2017 20 hours ago, DoomsDave said: Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall. https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932 Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida? Wow Dave, that CIDP must be ancient. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cocoa Beach Jason 559 Report post Posted December 2, 2017 On 11/30/2017, 1:26:25, DoomsDave said: Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall. https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932 Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida? Thats crazy. It looks like those would fall over with a slight breeze. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew92 978 Report post Posted December 2, 2017 There's quite a tall one by Florida standards in front of a place called The Ivy House in Williston. Am in N. Central FL right now and drove by it. Will stop by on the way back to take pictures up close. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Oxylon 128 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 Phoenix canariensis is one of the most commonly planted palms in Melbourne Australia. I don't recall seeing anything quite as tall as that Californian monster but in Victoria it looks like they may put on more bulk in the trunk (so larger diameter trunks) than elsewhere perhaps. They are probably the largest palms by volume in Victoria and large ones here are quite impressive. There are some impressive avenues of these in Melbourne. The one along Mt Alexander Road is probably the best: https://www.google.ca/maps/@-37.7527848,144.9157011,3a,75y,350.65h,92.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s988XkZJUqqAMbYJoJi2z4A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D988XkZJUqqAMbYJoJi2z4A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D322.43588%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 It runs for about 600 metres (1/3 mile) between Grice Cres and Marco Polo St along Mt Alexander Road. There are larger individuals in Melbourne. Here is a decent one. It is taller than a Cedrus atlantica to the left and is around the height of the building to the right of it. It is in the center of the shot-not thne best shot. https://www.google.ca/maps/@-37.8003871,144.9634272,3a,60y,10.35h,103.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWYORZlDuFpqIXcmUMwnm9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 There may be larger but large plants are so common here that I think most people in Melbourne don't take much notice of them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.SamuraiSword 1,120 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 heres some tall date palms in clearwater very tall https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9639872,-82.8002185,3a,75y,326.15h,117.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sv-oulQErkQBr9VVPjhwYHw!2e0!5s20161201T000000!7i13312!8i6656 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Oxylon 128 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 I don't think they are canariensis. Probably sylvestris or dactylifera with suckers pruned out. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmTreeDude 1,722 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 On 11/30/2017, 1:26:25, DoomsDave said: Impressive, but I've seen taller here, I'll bet nearly twice as tall. https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9344417,-117.9765722,3a,90y,84h,115.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-eX142e1wfL7HDgSvxIRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932 Thinking about this, I wonder if lightning strike kills some palms before they get too tall in Florida? I think that these are when CIDPs looks the best IMO, ancient, not in the way of things on the ground, and just amazing to see! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmTreeDude 1,722 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 On 11/30/2017, 2:14:26, Eric in Orlando said: The tallest I have seen in Florida are growing by the Taber Public Library in Macclenny, about 20 miles west of Jacksonville. This building is the old Baker County Courthouse, built in 1908. I also like the like this! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoomsDave 8,785 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, PalmTreeDude said: I think that these are when CIDPs looks the best IMO, ancient, not in the way of things on the ground, and just amazing to see! There's more big ones like that than you think. This one's a few miles from my house of horrah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Missi 992 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 There is an insanely tall one in Naples, off Orange Blossom Drive. It's growing on the edge of a large pond. I feel like it has got to be taller than any already in this thread. You can't see it in this, but it's located far back among the vegetation in the left center of this Google Earth image. I happened to spot it because I'm always surveying the trees for birds and other wildlife as I'm stuck in slow traffic.https://www.google.com/maps/@26.2327,-81.7616912,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHPHD0CCrEsPcFUmeEpau9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 EDIT: Oh, I think it you go a small ways further up the street in this Google Earth link, you can see a bit of its crown peeking out from behind tree canopies.https://www.google.com/maps/@26.232698,-81.7614821,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXmCSChvQNe6NekfsGq8mMA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric in Orlando 4,011 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 18 hours ago, Sir Oxylon said: I don't think they are canariensis. Probably sylvestris or dactylifera with suckers pruned out. I agree, those look like P. sylvestris. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew92 978 Report post Posted December 10, 2017 Williston, FL. In front of a restaurant called The Ivy House. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmTreeDude 1,722 Report post Posted December 10, 2017 What was the name of this palm again? (I probably should know this, but I don't ) https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9347552,-117.976572,3a,45.4y,59.73h,117.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD1IZARexIiBjHgvnHroiqg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palmaceae 2,477 Report post Posted December 11, 2017 46 minutes ago, PalmTreeDude said: What was the name of this palm again? (I probably should know this, but I don't ) https://www.google.com/maps/place/340+Valley+Home+Ave,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9347552,-117.976572,3a,45.4y,59.73h,117.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD1IZARexIiBjHgvnHroiqg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2d4d6a1e7f335:0xba2e1386d3255187!8m2!3d33.9343495!4d-117.9761932 That would be a King palm, Archontophoenix, probably alexandrae. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmTreeDude 1,722 Report post Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Palmaceae said: That would be a King palm, Archontophoenix, probably alexandrae. Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites