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Sabal Growth Rate


Sabal Steve

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Steve, what is the read in mm for seed diameter about 13mm?  If so, that is not a causiuarum which is 7-10mm as I recall.  My causiarum has round seeds the size of a pea and slightly larger. I remember your sabal had large ligules. If that is a 13mm seed, it would seem that ligules are not definitive for causiarum.  It is a beautiful palm, robust and fast growing with a dense crown.  It does look like its notably more dense of crown than my causiarum.  I know domingensis gets big fruits like that and possibly maritima another big sabal has big fruits as well as mexicana.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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On September 29, 2018 at 7:00:44 AM, sonoranfans said:

Steve, what is the read in mm for seed diameter about 13mm?  If so, that is not a causiuarum which is 7-10mm as I recall.  My causiarum has round seeds the size of a pea and slightly larger. I remember your sabal had large ligules. If that is a 13mm seed, it would seem that ligules are not definitive for causiarum.  It is a beautiful palm, robust and fast growing with a dense crown.  It does look like its notably more dense of crown than my causiarum.  I know domingensis gets big fruits like that and possibly maritima another big sabal has big fruits as well as mexicana.

Thanks, Tom.  It holds a ton of leaves, and from a rough count, there's about 18 right not (I need to mark them to count them accurately); I've had to hack a number of good leaves off, to clear a path.  This is what the seed measurement converts to in millimeters - 14.45.  To be fair, I grabbed the biggest seed.  Not sure why, but seed production seems to have pretty much stalled, perhaps because this is the first go.  As for the lingules: there is a thick webbing that wraps the leaf bases, but not the "papery" lingules, per se - at least to the extent that I have seen on other Sabals.

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  • 7 months later...

Whats the final verdict on this specimen ? This palm has become my new favorite whatever It is cause of its size comparable to a Bizzy but with better hardiness I'm guessing

T J 

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12 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Whats the final verdict on this specimen ? This palm has become my new favorite whatever It is cause of its size comparable to a Bizzy but with better hardiness I'm guessing

That’s what I’ve heard, as well.  Honestly, I never did the research, to ID it.  It flowered for the first time last year, and just put out a small crop of seeds.  It’s fruiting again, and I’m wondering it I will get a more mature flowering to refer to.  The leaves are big...  I think that the roof line is about 8 feet tall, and I cut those leaves about 12” from the trunk.

 

Its wider than the Bizzy, but the fans may be smaller, which have both recently trunked.  Similar conditions.

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Definitely keep us posted i know ill be following updates on it :)

T J 

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  • 2 years later...

Question for all the Sabal lovers. My local landscape place has 12ft sabals for $425 that are not regenerated. It's going on mid September and I was wondering if y'all think its a good time of year to be planting one in Southern Louisiana zone 9. Is there enough warmth left in the season? Thanks!

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On 5/15/2019 at 10:53 PM, Sabal Steve said:

That’s what I’ve heard, as well.  Honestly, I never did the research, to ID it.  It flowered for the first time last year, and just put out a small crop of seeds.  It’s fruiting again, and I’m wondering it I will get a more mature flowering to refer to.  The leaves are big...  I think that the roof line is about 8 feet tall, and I cut those leaves about 12” from the trunk.

 

Its wider than the Bizzy, but the fans may be smaller, which have both recently trunked.  Similar conditions.

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Updated Monty shot? Looks great whatever it is !

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Grows like a causiarum, but doesn't look like one. This is very impressive. S. uresana can also be quiet fast, doesn't look like one either.

Yes it's me Hortulanus 😂

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I think this may be something from the S. Mexicana “complex”.  Not too sure.  I bought it as a Sabal from a nursery n Riverside, and planted it almost 10 years ago.  It wasn’t quit trunking, and was probably about 10’ tall, at that point.  There are no lingules, or at least, no pronounced ones.
 

I moved a little while back, but will snap a pic when I return.  It’s in the back yard, and there are renters living there, now.

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