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I can't wait for these guys to get a tad bit taller. Not much, just a tad.

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sandgroper

They're looking quite happy there Alex, well done mate!

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23 minutes ago, sandgroper said:

They're looking quite happy there Alex, well done mate!

Thanks Dave!

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Mr. Coconut Palm

Looking good.

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Cluster

Hello Alex, they are looking great! I still believe your Golden Malayan will fruit, just wait and see, you are treating them very well.

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8 hours ago, Cluster said:

Hello Alex, they are looking great! I still believe your Golden Malayan will fruit, just wait and see, you are treating them very well.

danke Pedro!

 

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Mr. Coconut Palm

Looking good, Alex.  Keep us posted.  I think if you pour the water to them over the hot dry months, you should really get some good growth this summer.

John

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Looking good, Alex.  Keep us posted.  I think if you pour the water to them over the hot dry months, you should really get some good growth this summer.

John

Thanks John. As you can see in the pics, the cement is a bit wet due to the shower I gave 'em.

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11 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

Thanks John. As you can see in the pics, the cement is a bit wet due to the shower I gave 'em.

You are welcome.  When you water them, aside from showering the leaves, how do you do it?

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I hand water them. Have the spigot at "shower" setting and I pour. After each plot is saturated, I double back and pour on the same spout setting, onto their leaves. However I do it hastily and after sunset.

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17 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

I hand water them. Have the spigot at "shower" setting and I pour. After each plot is saturated, I double back and pour on the same spout setting, onto their leaves. However I do it hastily and after sunset.

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Okay.  It seems to be working good for you.  Here due to our humidity and about 3 times the amount of rainfall that you get there, I don't need to worry about showering the leaves.  What I do is leave the hose running a stream of water about the diameter of my index finger for 20 minutes on each of the 4 sides of my 10ft. tall in overall height Coconut Palms, and for 40 minutes on each of the 4 sides of my big Green Malayan Dwarf.  Even though it is much larger, since it is planted right up by the front patio, it gets good runoff from the roof when we get rain, and it gets a little bit of moisture from the faucet dripping a little bit adjacent to it, so I figure the 40 minutes of watering on each side of it is adequate.  I wish I could water them more as my soil is about 98% sand and is just about as sandy as the island just to my east, but if I watered any more, I would have an outrageously high water bill, since here in Corpus Christi, we have some of the highest water rates in Texas, all done to us by the city officials so they can give a BIG sweetheart corporate discount water rate to the refineries and other industry here.

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Mr. Coconut Palm

And as far as frequency, I try to water about once every 10 days this time of year, and once every 2.5 to 3 weeks in the winter time.  During the hot dry summer, I would like to water once per week, but that would drive up my water bill too high, so I make them wait a little longer just to keep my water bill down to a more affordable level.

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45 minutes ago, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

And as far as frequency, I try to water about once every 10 days this time of year, and once every 2.5 to 3 weeks in the winter time.  During the hot dry summer, I would like to water once per week, but that would drive up my water bill too high, so I make them wait a little longer just to keep my water bill down to a more affordable level.

Oh John.

I water them daily. Saturate and leave them be.  I begin mid-spring. (Once the 80's hit). Their plots are pure sand. PURE. 

Drainage is a given.

My oldest is not even 4 years old....

I alternate between salt and fertilizer monthly. 

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10 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

Oh John.

I water them daily. Saturate and leave them be.  I begin mid-spring. (Once the 80's hit). Their plots are pure sand. PURE. 

Drainage is a given.

My oldest is not even 4 years old....

I alternate between salt and fertilizer monthly. 

Oh, okay.  Then if you are watering that much, hopefully you will get really good growth this summer.  Your oldest ones should really take off.  I think the saying goes for palms and I suppose lots of trees, "The first year they sleep.  The second year they creep.  And the third year they leap."

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29 minutes ago, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Oh, okay.  Then if you are watering that much, hopefully you will get really good growth this summer.  Your oldest ones should really take off.  I think the saying goes for palms and I suppose lots of trees, "The first year they sleep.  The second year they creep.  And the third year they leap."

Yup. It's midnight here in Commie, err, I mean California and I'm with them. Just love these palms.  2 years (winters) without protection. 

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I bet you can tell which is the eldest...:D (4 years old come late July)

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Fortunately, I'm so infatuated and enveloped with my palms, I am outside with them just to make sure they are ok.

Lol it's midnight.  Listening to Deutch waltzes and just having a great time.

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11 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Yup. It's midnight here in Commie, err, I mean California and I'm with them. Just love these palms.  2 years (winters) without protection. 

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I bet you can tell which is the eldest...:D (4 years old come late July)

Oldest one on the right?  I like going out in my yard late at night too.  It's peaceful then and very relaxing among my trees and plants.

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Cluster

Looking great Alex.

 

Do you still use the lights during the winter, to warm the base?

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21 hours ago, Cluster said:

Looking great Alex.

 

Do you still use the lights during the winter, to warm the base?

Thanks Pedro.

Only during certain winter days when the lows drop below 8C.

Except for the baby red Tahiti dwarf, all the planted coconuts have been fully exposed (no tarps) for the past two winters.

The red Tahiti dwarf, since it's a seedling, I do place a tarp over it (i do not tent it) leaving the sides fully exposed in order to have air flow.  

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57 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

Thanks Pedro.

Only during certain winter days when the lows drop below 8C.

Except for the baby red Tahiti dwarf, all the planted coconuts have been fully exposed (no tarps) for the past two winters.

The red Tahiti dwarf, since it's a seedling, I do place a tarp over it (i do not tent it) leaving the sides fully exposed in order to have air flow.  

Btw, my oldest( golden malayan dwarf)  is not even 4 years old.

Can't wait to see their development come August 29th.

 

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4 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Btw, my oldest( golden malayan dwarf)  is not even 4 years old.

Can't wait to see their development come August 29th.

 

Alex,

What's the significance of August 29th?

John

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28 minutes ago, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Alex,

What's the significance of August 29th?

John

4 years in the ground for a 1 leaf seedling (Golden Malayan dwarf)

It probably germinated, based on an educated/empirical guess, 5 months prior to that date.

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21 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

4 years in the ground for a 1 leaf seedling (Golden Malayan dwarf)

It probably germinated, based on an educated/empirical guess, 5 months prior to that date.

Oh, okay.  I forgot where you said you got it from?

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25 minutes ago, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Oh, okay.  I forgot where you said you got it from?

"Flahreeduh" July, 2016 (loved the way Bob Hoskins said it in "Beyond the sea", 2004)

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On 5/2/2020 at 2:04 PM, Cluster said:

Looking great Alex.

 

Do you still use the lights during the winter, to warm the base?

One other thing, which is very important: even if our temps hit 9-16c at any given night, I do not activate the brood lamps. I want the palms to acclimate (even after 1, 2-3.5) years to their surroundings. (And they are)

Of course this is at 33 latitude/140 Meters over sea level. 

 

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Cuckoo for coconuts

Has anyone ever had success in actually getting a coconut tree to fruit in San Diego, or anywhere in California for that matter?

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8 minutes ago, Cuckoo for coconuts said:

Has anyone ever had success in actually getting a coconut tree to fruit in San Diego, or anywhere in California for that matter?

Whoever you are: I am told that in the Salton Sea there was a fruiting coco (priduced oblong fruit) but it has since been cut/removed/edited by the new owners. 

Anywho...  love your moniker.

 

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I put some in on a south facing wall in 2017 and they’re still alive. I understand they’re Malayan.  It was more of an experiment to see what would happen.  This last winter was the first one I didn’t have some sort of cover over them but I did put some old school fossil fuel burning Christmas lights at their base for the over nights.  Two of the three look pretty healthy. As best I can tell I’m zone 10A surrounded on three sides by 10b about 9.5 to 10 miles inland. 

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On 5/20/2020 at 10:23 PM, Cuckoo for coconuts said:

I put some in on a south facing wall in 2017 and they’re still alive. I understand they’re Malayan.  It was more of an experiment to see what would happen.  This last winter was the first one I didn’t have some sort of cover over them but I did put some old school fossil fuel burning Christmas lights at their base for the over nights.  Two of the three look pretty healthy. As best I can tell I’m zone 10A surrounded on three sides by 10b about 9.5 to 10 miles inland. 

How are they doing fer ya?

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On 5/21/2020 at 12:23 AM, Cuckoo for coconuts said:

I put some in on a south facing wall in 2017 and they’re still alive. I understand they’re Malayan.  It was more of an experiment to see what would happen.  This last winter was the first one I didn’t have some sort of cover over them but I did put some old school fossil fuel burning Christmas lights at their base for the over nights.  Two of the three look pretty healthy. As best I can tell I’m zone 10A surrounded on three sides by 10b about 9.5 to 10 miles inland.Bob 

Bob, post some pics, and give us all an update.  Where did you get yours from?

John

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On 7/6/2020 at 11:23 PM, GottmitAlex said:

How are they doing fer ya?

I got them from Florida-coconuts.com back in October of 2017 and had glass panels over them the first two winters.  this last winter my kid and I put tar paper down to run off the water and put lights under them.  The burn tip fronds are what has been there a while.  It looks like three new fronds are growing out of the middle and right one.  The left one has always been a little stunted.  I think they like it where they are and hope they make it through another winter.  I hit them frequently with miracle gro and every now and then dump some ocean water on them (when the kids come home with clams or grunion).  How are yours doing?

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38 minutes ago, Cuckoo for coconuts said:

I got them from Florida-coconuts.com back in October of 2017 and had glass panels over them the first two winters.  this last winter my kid and I put tar paper down to run off the water and put lights under them.  The burn tip fronds are what has been there a while.  It looks like three new fronds are growing out of the middle and right one.  The left one has always been a little stunted.  I think they like it where they are and hope they make it through another winter.  I hit them frequently with miracle gro and every now and then dump some ocean water on them (when the kids come home with clams or grunion).  How are yours doing?

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They're coming along. The oldest turns 4 years old late next month.

Same here with the scorched leaflet tips. 

Those Santa Ana's do a number on the poor cocos every year.

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52 minutes ago, Cuckoo for coconuts said:

I got them from Florida-coconuts.com back in October of 2017 and had glass panels over them the first two winters.  this last winter my kid and I put tar paper down to run off the water and put lights under them.  The burn tip fronds are what has been there a while.  It looks like three new fronds are growing out of the middle and right one.  The left one has always been a little stunted.  I think they like it where they are and hope they make it through another winter.  I hit them frequently with miracle gro and every now and then dump some ocean water on them (when the kids come home with clams or grunion).  How are yours doing?

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Looking good.  I would suggest an ALL ORGANIC Fertilizer though, like what I use, MicroLife All Biological Organic Fertilizer 8-4-6 Ultimate, with over 70 Minerals and Micronutrients.  I also us the MicroLife Ocean Harvest  4-2-3 as a foliar spray with REALLY good results.  Mine are doing good, and my biggest one, My Green Malayan Dwarf, over the last week has produced its first inflorescences!!! 

John

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3 hours ago, Cuckoo for coconuts said:

I got them from Florida-coconuts.com back in October of 2017 and had glass panels over them the first two winters.  this last winter my kid and I put tar paper down to run off the water and put lights under them.  The burn tip fronds are what has been there a while.  It looks like three new fronds are growing out of the middle and right one.  The left one has always been a little stunted.  I think they like it where they are and hope they make it through another winter.  I hit them frequently with miracle gro and every now and then dump some ocean water on them (when the kids come home with clams or grunion).  How are yours doing?

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Are you close to the coast or inland?

I apply salt (from our local SouthBay Salt works) every other month and palmgain to the cocos as well.

 

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GottmitAlex, are your coco's in San Diego or south of the border?  Are the salt works you mention those mounds in the south of San Diego Bay just east of IB?  Thank you both for your advice.  All I want is to see a coconut fruit here in San Diego, even if it's a puny one. 

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53 minutes ago, Cuckoo for coconuts said:

GottmitAlex, are your coco's in San Diego or south of the border?  Are the salt works you mention those mounds in the south of San Diego Bay just east of IB?  Thank you both for your advice.  All I want is to see a coconut fruit here in San Diego, even if it's a puny one. 

Yes. My cocos are in Tijuana,MX. Very close to the San Diego border (eastern side), right under Otay Mesa.

And yes, the Salt Works salt is from there. 

@Tracy can give you a lot more info regarding their wonderful salt.

I guess what I'm trying to convey is, I am not 100 miles south of the border.  I am right by it. Yes, I am 12 miles inland.  Hence my topics about my palns begin with "San Diego/TIjuana".  32.51 north latitude. 

You know, I once told a famous youtuber in Salt spring Island, Canada about my coconuts. He asked "where are they? " I replied: " south of San Diego, In Tijuana,MX" he then said, and I'll never forget:" Oh, in Mexico you grow anything."  I just sighed....

Now that you know about my whereabouts, 

Here again, are you coastal or inland?

 

 

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The Gerg

@GottmitAlex, He mentioned he’s 9.5 to 10 miles inland.

Your palms are coming along real nice. Looking good. Do you still have the B. alfedii mixed in there? It looks like possibly in the middle?

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28 minutes ago, The Gerg said:

@GottmitAlex, He mentioned he’s 9.5 to 10 miles inland.

Your palms are coming along real nice. Looking good. Do you still have the B. alfedii mixed in there? It looks like possibly in the middle?

Greg

Good eye. It's in there.

It is an understory palm compared to the Cocos nucifera (and older btw)  But it's carrying its own weight. 

 

 

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Alex, you are certainly continuing to demonstrate that the myth that Cocos cannot be grown in the state of California is busted!

Your extraordinary level of attention to every aspect of these palms' care really shows.  They are beautiful and so healthy.  Keep it up man!

My potted Cocos are a similar size and I certainly have some experience with the species but yours look better.

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6 hours ago, palmsOrl said:

Alex, you are certainly continuing to demonstrate that the myth that Cocos cannot be grown in the state of California is busted!

Your extraordinary level of attention to every aspect of these palms' care really shows.  They are beautiful and so healthy.  Keep it up man!

My potted Cocos are a similar size and I certainly have some experience with the species but yours look better.

Thank you very much Mike.

Let's keep pushin' the zones.

I'll give a detailed update come Aug 29th. (4 year anniversary).:D

 

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