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One week trip to Chile, home of Jubaea chilensis


Alberto

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From 11 to 18 of july I was in Chile with my family. It is certainly the most civilized country in South America. Friendly people. Safe. A lot of different sceneries for different tastes. From Santiago , a millions city to Viña del Mar a seaside resort, to snow covered mountains in a trip and  places with  vegetation that looks like chaparral with columnar cactus and Jubaeas, like in the Parque Nacional La Campana , sector Ocoa. 

Some pics of Santiago, with Jubaeas, giant Phoenix canariensis and Jubaea

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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Jardim Botanico Nacional in Viña del Mar. Some healthy Juania australis and others not so....

A row of Araucaria angustifolia [the state tree of my state Paraná], giant eucallyptus, a moai from the isla Pascua

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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A one day trip to the winter sport resorts Vale Nevado and Farellones

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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mas mas mas

 

:drool::drool::drool:

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Friday night Santiago had a big snow storm. The last time it snowed in the city was 16 years ago.We where heading again to Farellones.But today a totally different landscape

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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Monday 17, was our last day in Chile and we went to the Parque Nacional La Campana - sector Ocoa. With our guide Jorge from ''Jorge Excurciones'' we climbed  to a cascade in the park, a walk of 2 h 30 min and and 1 h 10 min hours back to the park entrance. It was my dream to know this fantastic place , a ''Patrimonio de la Biosfera''. Big centuries old Jubaeas and also younger palms, a lot of interesting plants like Trichocereus , Puya berteroana, Puya chilensis. I saw a tree that is also native to my place in Paraná, Drimys winteri . A wonderfull flora located in breathtaking location.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Campana_National_Park    

a Campana National Park is located in the Cordillera de la CostaQuillota Province, in the Valparaíso Region of Chile. La Campana National Park and the Vizcachas Mountains lie northwest of Santiago.[2] This national park covers approximately 80 square kilometres (31 sq mi) and is home to one of the last palm forests of Jubaea chilensis (Chilean Wine Palm), which prehistorically had a much wider distribution than at present.[3] Another attraction is the Cerro La Campana, which lends its name to the park. In 1834 Charles Darwin climbed this mountain, during the second voyage of HMS Beagle.

In 1984, the park, along with Lago Peñuelas National Reserve, was designated by UNESCO as a Biosphere Reserve.

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Strange to see cattle grazing inside the park. I´m not sure if this is ''carelessness''  or has an ecological  purpose to substitute the effects of ancient animals that actually are absent like alpacas etc....

At 1;00 pm we ate someting at the side og this stream

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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Some curiosities

We found this dwarfish Jubaea growing on a hill of pure rock. I don´t know how it can survive this harsh conditions....

There was still some snow from the big snowfall from two days ago. The temperature during our trip was pleasent, cold only in the shadow. Our guide told us that the day before the temperatures were negative in the Parque La Campana the whole day.

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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''La tierra no pertenece al hombre. El hombre pertenece a la tierra''

''The earth isn´t mankinds [ man´s] property, Mankind [the man] belongs to the earth.''

[In memory of the chilean visionary Sir Raul Ovalle Ugarte and family who in 1968 donated there property Las Palmas de Ocoa to the Nation as natural heritage to be preserved for the future generations]


 

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Alberto,  Thank you very much for these wonderful photographs !  :greenthumb:

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Wonderful photos! Chile has stunning natural beauty. What a joy to see palms and plants I will probably never see in person.

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Well, now I know Jubaea Chilensis is snow hardy. 

Thank you for the pictures. That was one magnificent trip.

 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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Thank you for posting some great pictures.  Did you see any small non trunking Jubaea?  I have wondered what kinds of animals disperse the seed.

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Beautiful country! It is cool to see snow on palms.

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Lived in Cape Coral, Miami, Orlando and St. Petersburg Florida.

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1 hour ago, Jubaea said:

Thank you for posting some great pictures.  Did you see any small non trunking Jubaea?  I have wondered what kinds of animals disperse the seed.

Yes I  saw young Jubaeas and also little seedlings protected with a wire fence. Here is younger one growing in some shade

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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2 hours ago, Jubaea said:

Thank you for posting some great pictures.  Did you see any small non trunking Jubaea?  I have wondered what kinds of animals disperse the seed.

Yes I  saw young Jubaeas and also little seedlings protected with a wire fence. Here is younger one growing in some shade. I didn´t find any mature fruits, but lots of seeds opened by a kind of rodent our guide told us.

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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2 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Well, now I know Jubaea Chilensis is snow hardy. 

Thank you for the pictures. That was one magnificent trip.

 

I saw a lot of broken fronds on the Phoenix canariensis and other trees in Santiago the following day of the snow. But this was the only Jubaea I saw with a broken frond in La Campana. It is certainly adapted to some heavy snow. 

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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2 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

Wonderful photos! Chile has stunning natural beauty. What a joy to see palms and plants I will probably never see in person.

Meg, never say never:D

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Thanks for the photos Alberto, looks like beautiful and scenic country. The Jubaea are so monumental.

Tim

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Wow, what a great set of photos!  Maybe I will get to visit there some day.  That snow looked heavy and wet.  I wonder if the Phoenix canariensis will defoliate?  If I lived there, I'd grow Jubaea.  Who needs CIDP when Jubaea grow into such wonderful specimens?

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Land O Lakes FL, a suburb on the North Side of Tampa, FL

Summers are great, 90f/32c in the day & 70f/21c at night with plentiful rain & sun

Winters are subtropical with occasional frosts and freezes. Tropical cyclones happen.

We have a few Royal palms in the warm microclimates but Coconuts freeze.

I am a Kayaker, Hiker, Bicyclist, and amateur Photographer that loves the outdoors.  

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Fantastic Alberto!! It looked like a great day for the hike. Just cool enough to keep you comfortable while you hiked, the best times and AMAZING scenery!! To think I have one of those monsters still not trunking in my front yard!

Thank you for the posting!!

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"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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From here a big THANK YOU as well, Alberto!

It is just great to let us join your wonderful trip and enjoy the awesome scenery and plant photos you took!

A great lecture - I really enjoyed it, gracias -

best regards

Lars

 

 

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Wow, great pics of a great palm.  Supposedly Charles Darwin thought Jubaea was one of the ugliest trees he had ever seen, it makes me laugh every time I look at one.  He may have been a great biologist but the man had no taste for palms, at all.  

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Wow! amazing photos! I love Andean cacti and palms :) I haven't seen many Chilean landscapes so this was really cool!

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Looking for:  crytostachys hybrids, Pseudophoenix sargentii Leucothrinax morrisii, livingstona canarensis

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1 hour ago, necturus said:

Great pictures. What species are the cactus?

They are Echinocereus [Echinopsis] chiloensis

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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Excellent coverage Albert. We were there last year but it didn't snow at all

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Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

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Unforgetable trip

 

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Thanks, Alberto! Great to see all your photos since I was just there last week! Amazing place indeed! :)

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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On 7/21/2017 at 4:49 PM, Alberto said:

Strange to see cattle grazing inside the park. I´m not sure if this is ''carelessness''  or has an ecological  purpose to substitute the effects of ancient animals that actually are absent like alpacas etc....

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Thank you Alberto for the photo tour. This silver Jubaea picture is my favorite. It looks like a giant magical windmill, so perfect against the blue sky.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, daxin said:

 

Yes, it's also my favourite!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Thank you for this fantastic post. Yours are some of the best shots of Ocoa / La Campana National Park I have seen. And the dusting of snow on the ridgetop behind the jubaeas adds a new feature to the scene.

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Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

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