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Oenocarpus bataua


realarch

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Interesting palm and has been rather insignificant in the garden until the last year or so. Planted out back in 2012 from a 4" container and like most 

palms, took awhile to get it's feet. Gonna be a monster as this part of the yard actually has some soil. Thought it was worth a mention and a photo. Note the water bottle for scale. 

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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 it was worth a mention and a photo...

Certainly !

Thanks for sharing .

Does this Oenocarpus also have colorful new leaves like O. mapora?

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Philippe

 

Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka

 

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Thanks, Tim. Reminds me of an Attalea.

Meg

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Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
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Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Philippe, unfortunately the new leaf on this one isn't red, but it's still has beautiful leaves.

Meg, looking at photos of mature specimens, it does resemble Attalea. Impressive palms both.

Tim

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Hilo, Hawaii

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Well, here's mine, with the 5-gal orange bucket. A smaller one is to the right and back. The larger one was raised from a seed collected near the Rio Negro in Brazil. It was planted out in Feb 2013. Evidently, it has a long way to go before becoming the striking specimen that Tim has.

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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On 6/17/2017, 9:17:09, PalmatierMeg said:

Thanks, Tim. Reminds me of an Attalea.

Attalea had a baby with Neoveitchia... Cool

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2 hours ago, Mandrew968 said:

Attalea had a baby with Neoveitchia... Cool

Heh, heh, that made me chuckle.

Tim

Cindy, we need to find you one or ten.

 

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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On June 18, 2017 at 10:30:45 PM, realarch said:

Heh, heh, that made me chuckle.

Tim

Cindy, we need to find you one or ten.

 

No argument from me,Tim.

Cindy Adair

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Theyve been selling these at our local Bunnings stores... Such a beautiful palm and dont think iv ever seen one. Now all of a sudden all the big box stores have them... LOL! 

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1 hour ago, cassowaryhill said:

Theyve been selling these at our local Bunnings stores... Such a beautiful palm and dont think iv ever seen one. Now all of a sudden all the big box stores have them... LOL! 

Oenocarpus bataua at Bunnings? Never thought I'd see the day. Get as many as you can if they are reasonably priced.

Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

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2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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Also surprised to hear Bunnings would have anything like that. The two Bunnings in Darwin only ever have the most ordinary palms. I'll have to keep an eye open if they slip some of these in here.

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Thought I'd post an update on this palm. It's fronds are getting larger and larger, thankfully I planted far enough away from the structure.......hope so anyway.

Tim

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Tim

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Here's an update on my Oenocarpus batauas as imaged two years ago. Picture from the same angle - note how the background palms (blue Copernicia baileyana, Beccariophoenix madagascariensis, Bismarckias) have grown. But I'm afraid mine will never catch up with Tim's. 

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But maybe I can restore my machismo with pictures of my Oenocarpus bacaba:

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and my Oenocarpus minor (Rodrigo Bernal has synonymized minor and mapora, says the correct name is minor):

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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I meant to respond to you photos Mike. That O. bacaba is looking great, amazing how different the leaf pattern is compared to O. bataua. 

The O. minor is looking good too. Mine died from lack of water, I think. 

Tim

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Hilo, Hawaii

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What would be fantastic would be getting Oenocarpus circumtextus or Oenocarpus simplex. Real Holy Grails, known only from single small areas along a river in southwestern Colombia.

 

Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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2 hours ago, mike in kurtistown said:

What would be fantastic would be getting Oenocarpus circumtextus or Oenocarpus simplex. Real Holy Grails, known only from single small areas along a river in southwestern Colombia.

 

So funny you mention this Mike. I am working on a trip to see these in habitat :)

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

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Tim, I never appreciated this genus until I saw them in Colombia. Awesome palms.  

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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A quick update on this 'going to be a monster' palm. Growing well, so far so good.

Tim

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Tim

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I just got this guy as o. Distishis . I have seen a bigger one and they are just amazing.  Tim yours is beautiful and I am falling in love with this genus

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Here's a couple interesting pics. During the Rio biennial, we visited Herminio's Nursery near Rio. He had a large Oenocarpus disticha. I obtained some seeds. I have three planted out and one remaining in a pot. Only one of the planted out ones has shown any substantial growth - I suspect that Hawaii Island (east coast) may just not be hot enough for some Oenocarpuses. But here is Herminio's tree:

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Later on, we went to Harry Lorenzi's institute and garden, Plantarum. Here is his garden specimen, on a somewhat smaller scale than Herminio's:

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And here is my one that has consented to grow (orange bucket is 5-gal):

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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Thanks for the photos all. Mike, here is the Oenocarpus disticha you gave me a few years back.....s  l  o  w  as molasses. It has started to gain some speed, although

I'll be long gone before it looks to be anything special. 

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A quick snap, this O. bataua from above. Growing like a weed……a very large weed.

Tim

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Wow, looking great!  This palm is on my wishlist. Waiting for the Floribunda seedlings to become larger as I don’t do well with seedlings! 

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Hey John, I am. I got this from Mike Merritt, a fellow Palm Society neighbor. He acquired the seed at the Rio biennial a few years back.

It’s been painfully slow up to this point, but is now beginning to show signs of speeding up. Been in the ground from a small 1 gal. for about 4 or 5 years now. 

Tim

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Hilo, Hawaii

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Time for an update on my Oenocarpuses. First, my pair of batauas (5-gal orange bucket for scale).

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Then, my bacabas. The large one (on the left) is outpacing the Beccariophoenix fenestralis (on the right) in height. Lawn chair for scale. In front of it is a much smaller one, but up to about 5 feet in height at present. For years, this was a small bifid-leaf thing in a 2-gal pot, but never showed any sign of growth.  I got tired of that and put it in the ground to grow or perish. After about a year, it did start to grow. Now, it is growing rapidly.

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Finally, an update on my O. disticha. It is growing, but rather slowly.  8 x 8 x 16 inch cinder blocks provide scale. Two other little ones have been in the ground for multiple years without showing any sign of growth. I suspect that it isn't really hot enough here to please this genus, with summer temperatures rarely exceeding 82 deg F.

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Also, my O. minor/mapora is doing fine, but doesn't look much different from my photo of a couple of years ago, so I didn't take a photo of it today.

 

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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Mike, those O. bacaba’s are looking good and appear to be fast growers. Our O. disticha look almost identical.

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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15 hours ago, realarch said:

Hey John, I am. I got this from Mike Merritt, a fellow Palm Society neighbor. He acquired the seed at the Rio biennial a few years back.

It’s been painfully slow up to this point, but is now beginning to show signs of speeding up. Been in the ground from a small 1 gal. for about 4 or 5 years now. 

Tim

Oenocarpus distichus 

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Wow, that is pretty slow growing then. Hopefully the speed will pick up. I have wondered why we have not seen more of this palm in cultivation in Hawaii. I am glad that you have them now. It would be cool to see a border lined with various disticha species palms like Orania and Oenocarpus and Wettinia. just a dream. thanks

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