Anyone having any luck with pure Butia in central Texas? Initially several of the largest in the area looked like they had some green in the center. However, now more than a month later they look worse. These experience around 5F. I must have had too much faith in their cold hardiness?
Should they be trunk cut now that the green is fading? I am asking for someone who has 7 nice ones that is hesitating. Copper fungicide applied and last checked a couple weeks and only 1 spear pulled then.
Hey everyone!! I recently bought a queen palm and noticed that it has a small trunk on it, is this it’s permanent size or it is going to be bigger?
This is also happening to my bottle palm.
Just wondering, according to plantmaps it is zone 8b-9a
My Common Queen & Silver Queen var. litoralis comparison
Been growing both palms at the same location in Lake City (borderline 8b/9a) since 2008. The common queen was planted as a 7 gallon on the south side, the Silver Queen on the north side as a seedling. There are oaks 100ft to the north that disrupt the cold northern winds some.
Couple quick thoughts. The Silver Queen took off the last 2 years and began trunking this year. The common Queen has had a trunk and been fattening a while now… yet they’re both about the same height today. The common Queen has bloomed, the Silver Queen has not. The Silver Queen was moved 2 times, once as a seedling and again as approx 1 gallon size palm.
Some of the more notable differences:
- Silver Queen has more flat/stiff leaflets, common Queen more droopy/plumose
- Silver Queen has a more stiff compact crown. Common Queen more loose and fluffy.
- Silver Queen leaflets have a darker green, slight blue hue. Common Queen is more green to medium green.
- Much more Tomentum on the Silver Queen. (perhaps added crown insulation)
- Leaf bases slightly darker purple on my Silver Queen
As for the biggest factor, cold tolerance, from what I can tell the Silver Queen may be only slightly hardier. Both have experienced some very cold temperatures without protection, 18/19 for a low, many low to mid 20s (2010) and some icy rain (2018). I haven’t been able to observe initial damage and recovery while I was in Jax but I do have some additional progression and cold damage pics I may post later. From what I can tell, leaf damage seems to be slower on the Silver Queen. Also I did lose 1 Silver Queen seedling and 1 three gallon common Queen either after 2008 or 2010 from the cold.
Bottom line, I would say the Silver Queen var. litoralis is not a viable palm to grow anywhere in zone 8b without protection. However if you’re a warm 8b and borderline, you probably can be successful growing this palm a while.
Common Queen 2008
Silver Queen 2008
Common Queen 2020
Silver Queen 2020
Anybody know if I could grow some queen or even king palms in Brookings Oregon (Zone 9b) would coconut trees be off limits?