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Jubaea x Syagrus update

Gtlevine

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Gtlevine Grand Master

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After a few short years my Jubaea x Syagrus has formed trunk.

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Rock Ridge Ranch

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5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

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When was it planted again, Gary?  Late 00's?  Mine went in ground in 2014 and has been nothing short of explosive...too bad Patric is out of them.

Looks like it has flowered - are the seeds viable?

More pics please!

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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The plant blew me away, Gary, when you had us for a visit some years back. Love seeing it develop.

Jason Dewees

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San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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Gary, your palm is incredible and I would imagine that it is the inspiration for pretty much every other J X S that has been planted since. The growth rate has always been astonishing but it seems to be growing faster than ever now. 

Do you have any idea why it has always grown at such a rate, is it a certain fertiliser that you use? 

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wow

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Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
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On 25/03/2017, 00:23:34, Gtlevine said:

After a few short years my Jubaea x Syagrus has formed trunk.

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Hello,I am new to this forum and I am about to order a lot of palm seeds.One specific palm I am interested in is the mule palm but the seeds are very pricy so I want to be sure that after 2-3 years of them growing in pots I can transplant them into the ground and minimally protect them in my 9a/sometimes barely 8b garden.

Btw your palm tree is amazing hopefully I'll have a few of my own soon.

 

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Gary,

can you get a full Monty shot ?

i've seen that tree and million times in person and it never gets old to look at

:drool:

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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What an ugly palm! And I mean that in the nicest way. It kind of reminds me of a mastodon or a woolly mammoth-or a Georgian Olympic power lifter, with back hair popping out of his tights, as he lifts comedic weight over his head. Wish I had one, but mine turned into something else and then died...

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On 3/24/2017, 4:50:32, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Nice looking palm.  Any guess to the diameter of the trunk? 

 

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Gary,

can you get a full Monty shot ?

i've seen that tree and million times in person and it never gets old to look at

:drool:

Gary: Any chance of getting another shot with something to give that iconic palm some scale (a horse, an elephant, one of your sons or daughters)?

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

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Gtlevine Grand Master

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Here is a picture of the full palm with a five gallon bucket. Its trunk is like three of those buckets wide.

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Wow, that's a spectacular monster!  Boo!

 

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Thanks Gary! I see you've once again relied on your trusty Home Depot bucket. Too bad you couldn't have located an elephant (African or Asian):(. For planning purposes that diameter is important (sidewalks, walls, etc.).

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

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Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

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Posting my little guy for posterity...something to compare to in a few years.

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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A closer shot

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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On 4/10/2017, 3:00:51, Alicehunter2000 said:

A closer shot

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David, I hope it does well for you.

Questions:

Assuming you bought it from Patric(k) Schafer, was it the smallest of the 2 sizes he sold (he's apparently out of both now)?

How long have you owned it?

I bought the smaller size in Oct. '14, and the larger in Sep. '15, A couple months ago I noticed the smaller size had surpassed the larger one. They were both planted in the ground in Oct. '15. They are only about 10 ft. apart, get about the same amount of sun, and both get the same care. Weird.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

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Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

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It was the larger size...it's grown quite a bit in the pot since I got it, about 1 year. Hope it grows well, it was darn expensive! ....how bout some pics of yours?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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David, I'll try to upload some images (with something included to give them a sense of scale) in a few days. You're lucky to own one (at any price). AFAIK, only Patric(k) has ever sold them worldwide, but I believe one other person in Brazil produced some a few years ago, but I can't verify if any still exist. Let's hope they become more common someday. Gary's is without doubt one of the most famous palms in the world.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

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Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

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Here is a pic of my rootbound 15gallon that just went in the ground.  It was a small liner in october 2015. 

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Alicehunter2000 Grand Master

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I posted in another thread...but this is more applicable for showing progress. This palm has grown well in my beach sand and both hot & cold weather. Hoping for an explosion of growth in 2019.

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On 4/8/2017 at 12:30 PM, Gtlevine said:

Here is a picture of the full palm with a five gallon bucket. Its trunk is like three of those buckets wide.

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Gtlevine:

This palm has so much potential to be as popular as the mule palm (Butia x S. rom) one day. Many nurseries are now growing mules here in Florida.  Do you know whether there is an effort in California to produce this palm on a wide scale? Also, is there a common name for this palm yet that it would be marketed under ?  

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Mispelling nursery's. Should be nuseries.
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Here is current pic of my JxS, it hasn't until very recently gotten any special attention (fertilizer). The soil (sand) is crappy, it has seen temps of 21oF and no effects it's pushing around 16-17 feet.  It went in the ground late 2014 early 2015, and it has gone crazy since. The soffits of my house are just shy of 8 feet. Love to see pics of others.  Does any one want to speculate if it might produce fertile seed?dr

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Gary's has to be 3' in diameter or pretty darn close. :crying:

 

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2 hours ago, 8B palms said:

Here is current pic of my JxS, it hasn't until very recently gotten any special attention (fertilizer). The soil (sand) is crappy, it has seen temps of 21oF and no effects it's pushing around 16-17 feet.  It went in the ground late 2014 early 2015, and it has gone crazy since. The soffits of my house are just shy of 8 feet. Love to see pics of others.  Does any one want to speculate if it might produce fertile seed?dr

 

Yours has grown much faster than mine in Ocala. Mine is in thick clay though. :interesting:

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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The trunk isn't as thick as I thought it would be. Once the leaf bases come off it might be around 18" diameter or smaller

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wow.   Thats insane.  Crappy soil ?   lol.

That palm looks amazing-    How wide is the crown?

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Sailer Bold, I am being honest the soil here is basically sand, it's taken me about 5 years to build up my raised veggie beds to were they actually produce something that you would want to eat.

So I measured the width of he conopy just now and it's between 22-23 feet wide.  I got a piece of string and but it around the base and the circumference is 7 feet 4 inches around and from the pic below it is about 28 inches wide.  It has grown like a rocket, I have only in the last year started giving it generic Sunniland palm fertilizer (6-1-8) which I got at either Lowes or Home Depot, not sure if the trunk will get much bigger, but if it does I will update the post here.

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hope gary doesnt mind but i was over there last year and snapped his .... you can see the scale of it next to the cars.

its pretty massive.  wish i jumped on the bandwagon way back then when they were first available.  note it is actually planted lower on the steep hill where the cars are parked.

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I have 2 of these growing trouble free in Mesa, Arizona. No problems with the heat either. Looking at pics in this thread, I may have mis sited this one... :wacko:

 

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Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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I have 2 of these growing trouble free in Mesa, Arizona. No problems with the heat either. Looking at pics in this thread, I may have mis sited this one... :wacko:

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

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I also have 2 of these beauties. Sorry no pics (I can't get any good shots until they grow above my "jungle"). They're about 10' apart, with shaded trunks on the south side of a cinder block wall. I used the pic of@Gtlevinefor judging the space I'd need. They are doing well in the 7+ years I've owned them. Maybe in a couple years I can post some pics. I'm sure glad I bit the bullet on their expense. Their purchase turned out to a stroke of luck. It's too bad that@patrichasn't had any Jubaea available to produce any more lately, so other growers can enjoy what I think is the most desirable palm hybrid ever created. Not only are they great looking, but they are also one of the most climate tolerant hybrids in most of the places they've been grown. If I were you I'd move the misplaced 1 out where it can thrive.

Hi 60˚, Lo 33˚

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Lucked out and purchased one several years ago too.  Mine still in a pot 🤕

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