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Mystery palm - any idea what it may be?

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On 11/26/2016, 10:05:15, BS Man about Palms said:

Looks so close to so many things. But I don't really see Jubeaopsis. But I could see Beccariophoenix, Butia, Jubea, or Ravenea in various stages of happiness. I am always terrified of bare rooting palms heading into winter.. :( I kinda almost see Parajubea..

But if it survives, another year it might to show more tendencies..

I think that bare rooting at the onset of winter was a bad call. I should have waited. This palm slowed so much I thought maybe it would rot over winter. I'm happy to see it pushing new growth now, though. The center spear is opening up now and I see roots at the bottom of the container. 

 

On 1/21/2017, 8:50:42, Ben in Norcal said:

Hmmm...I don't think Butia or Jubaea would show that much damage at those temps?

The spotting went away Ben, but you're right - my butia and jubaea don't get spotty with these temps. 

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Jdiaz31089

Here's the same palm today. The fronds are starting to do this cool twisting thing. 

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Jdiaz31089
On 11/25/2016, 8:58:34, DoomsDave said:

If it's a B. mad, full sun, regular water.

Maybe repot it, give it another year before planting out. Takes FOREVER to get any size, but don't plant under the wires, for the love of your great-grandkids.

Pull it out of the pot and look at the dirt and roots. If it's all detioriated and nasty, repot for sure. IF not sure, show us and we'll help.

Share with us what you do and what it turns out to be.

full sun 

regular water 

repot 

wait a year to plant out 

no overhead wires 

show us your progress 

I planted this palm out yesterday, pics coming soon!

 

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Jdiaz31089

I gave this palm a spot up front and center in the front yard. Let's see what it grows in to

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Jdiaz31089

Can you spot it here? Probably not...

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It's tucked between the big pot in the middle & the sandstone rock in front of it. 

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DoomsDave

It's "hot to trot" as we used to say back in the infamous disco era.

Let's see how it trots, when it gets hot . . . .

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Josh-O
On 10/4/2017, 1:47:04, DoomsDave said:

It's "hot to trot" as we used to say back in the infamous disco era.

Let's see how it trots, when it gets hot . . . .

indeed!

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BS Man about Palms

I keep looking at this and wondering... it almost looks to me like a Butia hybrid... like a Butyagrus or the like..

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Jdiaz31089
9 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

I keep looking at this and wondering... it almost looks to me like a Butia hybrid... like a Butyagrus or the like..

I keep seeing butia also! My butyagrus of about the same size looks very different though. It keeps it's strap leaves longer. It does look kind of like my butia x parajubaea sunkha though, so I'm wondering if it's one of those crosses. But even those still have their strap leaves at this stage. Maybe now that it has a good root system, it'll put on enough growth in the next year for us to be able to tell what it is.

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DoomsDave
9 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

I keep looking at this and wondering... it almost looks to me like a Butia hybrid... like a Butyagrus or the like..

I'm beginning to think so, too. It's not quite yellow enough in the right places to look like a B. madagascarensis.

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Josue Diaz

So it's been in the ground a full year and doesn't have much to show for it lol. It is virtually the same size, but is now showing some prominent brown spotting on its petioles. 

 

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Josue Diaz

I've had a couple other palm friends look at this little guy and the genus that keeps resurfacing is butia. Given a number of traits I think this may be butia purpurescens or archeri. Both are described as being glaucous, slow-growing species with smooth - rather than toothed- petioles. Photos of archeri appear to show spines at the leaf bases, and purpurescens is described as being the only unarmed butia. The photos of pupurescens on palmpedia show tomentum on some of the leaf bases which is also present on my mystery palm. Perhaps some of our butia experts from Brazil could confirm or deny...

@Alberto ? any thoughts on the suspected identity of this palm? 

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Josue Diaz

3 full years later, still not positive on the ID - for the palm that is :P

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gtsteve

It was mentioned years ago that the leaves appeared reduplicate. And they did.

This now appears to me to be induplicate . Can such a thing change?

Does that change anything?

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OC2Texaspalmlvr

Looks more Butia like now, and most definitely seems like a dwarf sp. from speed of growth 

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Josue Diaz

Just thought I'd post an update on my little palm. Seems like it grew a lot this summer

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Stevetoad

Looks like beccariophoenix madagascariensis

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GottmitAlex
3 minutes ago, Stevetoad said:

Looks like beccariophoenix madagascariensis

I concur 

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