Stevetoad 1,252 Report post Posted October 17, 2016 Can anyone tell me if livistona fulva has rust under the leaves as a seedling or how long it takes for this to show? I have 2 from different places. one is in the ground and is about 4 feet tall (no rust) the other is a one gallon (no rust). ill post pics later when i get home. thank you for any info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NatureGirl 719 Report post Posted October 17, 2016 No, they don't, not until they are older. Here's some one gallon size. And the next pic showing it's color. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topwater 533 Report post Posted October 17, 2016 That is so cool, it looks like more like a Coccothrinax than a Livistona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 1,252 Report post Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, NatureGirl said: No, they don't, not until they are older. Here's some one gallon size. And the next pic showing it's color. Thank you! Poor thing almost got hacked out this weekend. I'll let it go a bit longer to see what it turns into. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 1,252 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 Here's my biggest. About 5 foot tall. No rust at all. It does have some pretty good sized liguels which I don't see on my decora or Australis. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,524 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 I have a fulva a bit bigger than those one gallons and it has nothing to show yet. I have a feeling once it gets that copper back on it, I will be disappointed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daryl 1,298 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 Lovely palms...mine all had reasonable colour from about 2 ft tall, but it developed more over time...by the time they had clean trunk, they were really colourful... 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 1,252 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 Such a cool palm. I really hope mine turns out to be one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NatureGirl 719 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 Wow Daryl! Now those are some colorful Liv Fulva's. They look almost Orange in the photo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,524 Report post Posted October 19, 2016 Man Daryl, Looking sharp! Not like this one below. Never seen color like yours before. I have this just to have it; it'll be swell if it ever shows like yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daryl 1,298 Report post Posted October 19, 2016 Mandrew, at that size you should start seeing scales on the undersides of the leaves. Not enough to be noticeable from a distance, but they should be there if you look really close. A couple more years and you should see some definite colour. I have to admit, the more colourful photos above (the first two) were taken in the late afternoon light 'golden hour' and this colours the leaves up to be almost orange...the photos reflect the colours in real life, but only at that time of day...usually they are a little more subtle (the last two), but still very obvious. This is one of my favourite Livistonas...I should really source a couple for my new garden! Daryl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daryl 1,298 Report post Posted October 19, 2016 For a good thread on this palm in habitat, go to ... Ratpack at the Blackdown Tablelands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 1,252 Report post Posted October 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Daryl said: Mandrew, at that size you should start seeing scales on the undersides of the leaves. Not enough to be noticeable from a distance, but they should be there if you look really close. A couple more years and you should see some definite colour. I have to admit, the more colourful photos above (the first two) were taken in the late afternoon light 'golden hour' and this colours the leaves up to be almost orange...the photos reflect the colours in real life, but only at that time of day...usually they are a little more subtle (the last two), but still very obvious. This is one of my favourite Livistonas...I should really source a couple for my new garden! Daryl Daryl, does mine look like Fulva to you or do i have something else??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daryl 1,298 Report post Posted October 19, 2016 Hi Steve, no unfortunately...it looks more like L.nitida Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 1,252 Report post Posted October 19, 2016 25 minutes ago, Daryl said: Hi Steve, no unfortunately...it looks more like L.nitida that was my fear. Thank you though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 1,252 Report post Posted October 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Daryl said: Hi Steve, no unfortunately...it looks more like L.nitida Are these the scales you were referring to or just wishful thinking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,524 Report post Posted October 20, 2016 My palm came from Faith Bishock. She has an extensive collection of Livistona in Sarasota. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daryl 1,298 Report post Posted October 20, 2016 13 hours ago, Stevetoad said: Are these the scales you were referring to or just wishful thinking? Wishful thinking...yes, they could almost be classified as scales, but should be scattered over the leaves right up to the leaf tips on all leaflets... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 1,252 Report post Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Daryl said: Wishful thinking...yes, they could almost be classified as scales, but should be scattered over the leaves right up to the leaf tips on all leaflets... bubble burster 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike in kurtistown 522 Report post Posted October 20, 2016 Now that the non-stop rains of the last two days have paused for a while, I have been able to get a couple of pics from my garden. The first is of one planted oput in April 2014, ATV for scale. This one is getting smaller leaves, showing signs of boron deficiency, which I have treated it for. Here is a leaf underside. It looked lighter and rustier to the eye than it does in the photo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike in kurtistown 522 Report post Posted October 20, 2016 There aren't many Livistona growers on the Big Island, perhaps because people are immersed in their Calyptrocalyx, Licualas, Pinangas, Arecas, Iguanuras, etc., etc. The ones that are found are usually fulva, because of the color. I got into the Livistona habit in central Florida. Here, I also have benthamii, drudei, muellerii, lanuginosa, and carinensis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJG 992 Report post Posted October 20, 2016 6 hours ago, Stevetoad said: bubble burster Been there many a times Steve :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daryl 1,298 Report post Posted October 22, 2016 This should definitely be more widely grown...it is such a tough palm 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalmatiansoap 265 Report post Posted October 22, 2016 Beautiful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim_brissy_13 262 Report post Posted October 22, 2016 There are some beauties at the Melbourne Botanic Gardens. They are really eye catching once they develop some trunk. Really robust palms and clearly they don't mind cool conditions for all of us temperate growers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalmatiansoap 265 Report post Posted October 23, 2016 Anybody with few extra seeds willing to share? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenikakias 1,493 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 Could this very young plant be a real fulva? It's so spiny! If it is to early yet for a positive identification I vae to check out is a negative one is already possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
