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Sunday Afternoon Palm Quiz

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I purchased these two from Floribunda, but the tags have faded.  As they are new to me, I can't tell which is what.  Your assistance will be most appreciated!

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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Palm #2, on right of first photo:

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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Palm #3, germinated from seed, unlabeled:

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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Palm #4, widely seen, sourced from Floribunda without a proper botanical name:

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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Plant #5, not a palm, obviously.  The foliage is fern-like, but the stem is very woody, like a tree.  For all I know, it's a weed!

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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Gratuitous gecko photo, for your amusement...

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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5 minutes ago, Kim said:

Plant #5, not a palm, obviously.  The foliage is fern-like, but the stem is very woody, like a tree.  For all I know, it's a weed!

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Looks like a Grevillea of some kind.

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17 minutes ago, Kim said:

I purchased these two from Floribunda, but the tags have faded.  As they are new to me, I can't tell which is what.  Your assistance will be most appreciated!

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Palm #1, palm on left:DSC_0016.thumb.jpg.94c493984aae454d90b1bDSC_0019.thumb.jpg.ba110dc6e160220590282DSC_0021.thumb.jpg.a2771ea2937a1ad88ff06

D. ovobontsira?

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15 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

D. ovobontsira?

That is what I thought too, looks like my little one:

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Okay, Dave may be right.  In the first photo, one is D. ovobontsira and one is D. nauseosa, but with the labels gone, I was not sure which was which.  So do experts agree D. ovobontsira is on the left and D. nauseosa is on the right?  It doesn't show well in the photo, but the leaflets of the palm on the right are very shiny, much more so than the other palm.

Palm #3 may be a Veitchia, based on comparisons with one of Bo's potted palms.

Any help with Palm #4?  I thought this would be easy for some of the Dypsis crowd.

Still uncertain about that little non-palm.  I looked up lots of Grevilleas, and none that I found had foliage like that...

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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Here are pictures of what I got from Jeff as D. nauseosa a few months ago. Very shiny leaflets and looks pretty similar. I'd also agree that #3 is a Veitchia sp. 

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Kim, since you asked and Im very surprised nobody named the easiest 1 below being Dark MeaIy, botanical wont be known till Jeffs flowers and sent to Kew. I agree on all names above ..     Pete

 

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On 15 August 2016 at 8:22:59 AM, Kim said:

Palm #3, germinated from seed, unlabeled:

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This is the only one I see that hasn't been correctly indentified yet.... I can't quite id it but I can say that's it's almost certainly a hydriastele not a veitchia 

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...from where I sit #3 looks like a Caryota

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Cause lies don't need an aero plane / To chase you anywhere

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#4 is definitely dark mealy bug.  I'm not sure about #1 being ovobontsira, as the ones I have of those have darker petioles, almost like a Dark Mealy Bug without the mealy bug part.  But ovobontsira is quite vertical - none of mine ever keep any fronds that droop below 45 degrees from vertical - so maybe the coloring is just a bit different.  If you want to swing by I can show you my nauseosa, ovobontsira, and Dark Mealy Bug - they're all in the ground, and frankly we probably bought them around the same time.  I'll be here through Saturday evening.

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Ovo, 'Nauseosa' and Dark Mealy for sure. No clue on the hydriastele species. Nice selection Kim. All winners. Well, except for the Grevillea :)

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5 hours ago, Justin said:

#4 is definitely dark mealy bug.  I'm not sure about #1 being ovobontsira, as the ones I have of those have darker petioles, almost like a Dark Mealy Bug without the mealy bug part.  But ovobontsira is quite vertical - none of mine ever keep any fronds that droop below 45 degrees from vertical - so maybe the coloring is just a bit different.  If you want to swing by I can show you my nauseosa, ovobontsira, and Dark Mealy Bug - they're all in the ground, and frankly we probably bought them around the same time.  I'll be here through Saturday evening.

Justin, 2 yrs ago mine was like Kims now its rapidly changing/morphing.      Pete

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Thanks Pete for taking a look -- and with Justin and Len chiming in, #4 shall become 'dark mealy bug' on my spreadsheet.  Seems we have general confidence on D. ovo #1 on the left and D. nauseosa #2 on the right -- I will re-label with pencil.  Those ink tags from Floribunda fade exceptionally fast.  I feel pretty sure #3 is a Veitchia collected from new Caledonia by Donald Sanders.  And the Grevillea is a weed. :mrlooney:  A pretty weed right now, but not something I will plant. So disappointing...:badday:

Thanks everyone for your input!  I really appreciate the broad expertise I can tap into here.

Justin -- I just missed you.  Maybe next time...

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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