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And this is my smallest L insigne (N°1408), also just unfolding a new frond (#11 of 12): :)

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Pal Meir

One year ago palm N°1401 looked still like grass (or corn): :hmm:

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But now it is a real beautiful palm tree with huge fronds: :)

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Pal Meir

And now my 8th L insigne is ready for emigration on Saturday and saying goodbye: :(

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Laaz

Still searching for a seed source for these...

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Pal Meir
43 minutes ago, Laaz said:

Still searching for a seed source for these...

When my N°1401 will be fruiting next year or so :rolleyes: I’ll send a couple of seeds to you. :greenthumb:B)

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Mohsen
2 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

And now my 8th L insigne is ready for emigration on Saturday and saying goodbye: :(

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Who is the lucky reciever ;) ?

im not sure what I'm doing wrong none of my seedlings doing well and not growing anymore :( 

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Pal Meir
20 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

Who is the lucky reciever ;) ?

im not sure what I'm doing wrong none of my seedlings doing well and not growing anymore :( 

Mohsen, 

(1) take a photo of your Lyto seedlings (= the so called hybrids?);

(2) remove one (or all) from the soil;

(3) take a photo of the seedling(s) with bare roots;

(4) take a photo of the removed soil;

(5) protect the bare rooted seedling(s) against drying (in a moist vinyl bag or so);

(6) wait for the diagnosis of Dr Meir. B)

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On 7/28/2017, 12:27:02, Pal Meir said:

Mohsen, 

(1) take a photo of your Lyto seedlings (= the so called hybrids?);

(2) remove one (or all) from the soil;

(3) take a photo of the seedling(s) with bare roots;

(4) take a photo of the removed soil;

(5) protect the bare rooted seedling(s) against drying (in a moist vinyl bag or so);

(6) wait for the diagnosis of Dr Meir. B)

 

Sorry Pal, I have been very busy lately...

first picture is the 2 ones look happier but not growing ( or at least I cant tell) :

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This one is the twin one :

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This one is another one , the 2nd worst after the twins:

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the soil is 40% Seramis + 60% premium potting mix and I didn't notice any wetness in them...

they are in the shade house ( small green house) outside...could see low to 4-5c but not colder

waiting for the diagnosis Dr Meir ;) 

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Pal Meir

@Mohsen, at first the good news: Your seedlings seem to be L insigne or a hybrid which has the habit of L insigne; they are definitely not L weddellianum. — What is the size of the plastic pots the seedlings are/were potted in?

And now the diagnosis by Dr Meir: B)

(1) The pots are too large; the ideal size would have been 8x8xH9 cm as on the old pics of my seedlings.

(2) The drainage of the soil mix is too slow; if you had used much smaller pots it might have been sufficient. :unsure:

(3) One of the twins is dead. :crying:

What to do now: :greenthumb:

(4) Let the soil of the two healthier seedlings get relatively dry before next watering; later you should repot these two also in smaller pots with a much better draining soil mix.

(5) Add to the un-potted soil mix small LECA pebbles (c. 20%).

(6) Look for smaller plastic pots, c. Ø9xH9 cm.

(7) Repot the two seedlings in those small plastic pots using the old soil, mixed carefully with c. 20% LECA.

(8) Water the potted seedlings with lots of water; don’t let them stand in water (no wet feet).

(9) As you have now winter in OZ put ALL the L insigne seedlings inside your house and stand them on a window sill (facing south or protected against too much direct sun). 

(10) Mark the growing point of the leaves with a permanent marker.

(11) Later you have too repot the two healthier (not healthy!) seedlings too in smaller pots, but wait now. :mellow:

And good luck!

Dr Meir :innocent:

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Pal Meir

This is the way roots and soil mix should look like (50% Seramis® + 50% fine pine bark + layer of LECA on the bottom):

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On 8/1/2017, 7:21:54, Pal Meir said:

@Mohsen, at first the good news: Your seedlings seem to be L insigne or a hybrid which has the habit of L insigne; they are definitely not L weddellianum. — What is the size of the plastic pots the seedlings are/were potted in?

And now the diagnosis by Dr Meir: B)

(1) The pots are too large; the ideal size would have been 8x8xH9 cm as on the old pics of my seedlings.

(2) The drainage of the soil mix is too slow; if you had used much smaller pots it might have been sufficient. :unsure:

(3) One of the twins is dead. :crying:

What to do now: :greenthumb:

(4) Let the soil of the two healthier seedlings get relatively dry before next watering; later you should repot these two also in smaller pots with a much better draining soil mix.

(5) Add to the un-potted soil mix small LECA pebbles (c. 20%).

(6) Look for smaller plastic pots, c. Ø9xH9 cm.

(7) Repot the two seedlings in those small plastic pots using the old soil, mixed carefully with c. 20% LECA.

(8) Water the potted seedlings with lots of water; don’t let them stand in water (no wet feet).

(9) As you have now winter in OZ put ALL the L insigne seedlings inside your house and stand them on a window sill (facing south or protected against too much direct sun). 

(10) Mark the growing point of the leaves with a permanent marker.

(11) Later you have too repot the two healthier (not healthy!) seedlings too in smaller pots, but wait now. :mellow:

And good luck!

Dr Meir :innocent:

Thanks Pal

I need to find smaller pots and also I need measure Leca I have,

But the soil didn't look wet , could cold be the main reason ? already bring one inside as I dont have room for all at the moment :( 

 

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Pal Meir
4 hours ago, Mohsen said:

Thanks Pal

I need to find smaller pots and also I need measure Leca I have,

But the soil didn't look wet , could cold be the main reason ? already bring one inside as I dont have room for all at the moment :( 

The "premium potting mix" is the problem. So be careful with watering your two healthier seedlings and leave them where and as they are now. — Protect the roots of the two un-potted seedlings against drying out. — If the LECA is too coarse so crush it in smaller pieces.

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Jamesasb
On 27/07/2017, 15:05:54, Mohsen said:

Who is the lucky reciever ;) ?

im not sure what I'm doing wrong none of my seedlings doing well and not growing anymore :( 

That would be me!!! :)  I'll do a post this weekend with pics :)

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Pal Meir

A chilly summer night, 13°C / 98%:

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Jamesasb
On 08/07/2017, 17:38:00, Pal Meir said:

@Jamesasb N°1402 now unfolding its 13th frond (of 14) is waiting for emigration, too:

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On 08/07/2017, 17:38:00, Pal Meir said:

@Jamesasb N°1402 now unfolding its 13th frond (of 14) is waiting for emigration, too:

 

On 27/07/2017, 15:05:54, Mohsen said:

 

On 09/07/2017, 10:48:53, Jamesasb said:

On 09/07/2017, 13:48:43, Pal Meir said:

 

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for some reason it wont upload a picture, i'm having problems with the website today for some reason, will attempt again tomorrow

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I seem unable to upload pictures, the website just says there was a problem.. any ideas?

 

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59904be9e15d0_linsigne.thumb.jpg.e29ed5c1402 in its new home, slight discoloration of the edge of the lowest leaf ..

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Pal Meir

@Jamesasb It is the 7th leaf, and it will soon look like this 5th leaf of N°1408:

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it just concerned me because it started to discolour right after i arrived back..

 

 

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On 16/08/2017, 12:06:27, Bananengeknl said:

:wub:

 

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beautiful, how will you protect this for winter and how long has it been in the ground for?

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On 16.8.2017, 13:06:27, Bananengeknl said:

:wub:

 

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Very glad to see N°1403 being healthy & happy in NL :greenthumb::)

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Pal Meir

My last two L insigne: The slender N°1408 and the fat N°1401 enjoying the late summers sun on a chilly day. :)

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1402 now has its first fully pinnate leaf totally open :)

 

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Pal Meir
On 17.3.2017, 21:13:13, caixeta said:

Only today I completed my Lytocaryum collection , I won a Lytocaryum insigne from a great friend ,there goes the photos.58cc413b86a0d_Lytocaryuminsigne001.thumb

@caixeta It looks to me like my N°1401 is now not smaller (or even larger?) than your new acquisition was when you got it; could you post an update of your baby?

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And here on the balcony, exposed to fairly strong autumn storms:

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Jamesasb

I bought mine inside last week and it started growing very quickly again.  

should we expect these to maybe,maybe flower in 2019? also how many  leaves should they be holding?

I ask because it seems 7 is the limit before it aborts the oldest leaf for me. i wonder how to make it hold more leaves?

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Alberto

One of my palms is forming two spathes.

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Jamesasb

wow,how big is the palm? have you posted a picture of it before?

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Alberto

Yes, I posted some pics in a thread "Are this two palms of the same species?" ...or something like that...

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Jamesasb

i fiound them already yes they are nice, maybe a few more years until our young ones flower

 

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Kai

Here's my sunburned insigne. It's recovering very well and has grown quite a bit since I took this picture.

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I will be extra carefull with selecting a less full sun location for it in my garden in summer. I also plan to repot it into a much wider and heavier clay pot for more stability during windy days.

I will try to make a picture of all 4 of my insignes. 2 of which originated from Pal Meir and the 2 others were sown by myself. It took me very long to find out that these plants didn't like the commonly used organic soil that I used back then and they have been on the edge of dying. Now finally healthy growth has returned but the setback they got is enormous. For comparison, I believe the seeds that I germinated were from the same batch as Pals seeds and if not, their germination dates are not very far apart... Picture coming up...

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Kai

Here it is...

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Quite a difference a setback makes. My small plants have made unhealthy yellowish leaves for a long time after repotting them into the seramis mix. But patience was rewarded and now healthy little leaves start appearing and growth is excellerating. I think I'm finally getting the hang of these insignes.

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Pal Meir

My remaining two L insigne were a little bit too long outdoors this winter so that N°1401 lost 3 fronds under icy rain and snow … 

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oh no was it the weight of the snow that snapped them or the cold that burned them?

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Pal Meir
1 hour ago, Jamesasb said:

oh no was it the weight of the snow that snapped them or the cold that burned them?

It was the ice cold water which filled the pot for a too long time. I didn’t notice that the rain was blown by strong winds also inside the protected loggia …… :sick:

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After a delay of a couple of weeks it is now growing steadily under a 50W halogen lamp, but the tips of the leaflets of all (!) remaining 3½ fronds got wilted. :crying:

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Jamesasb

how low would you estimate the temperature that it saw? 

 

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Pal Meir
48 minutes ago, Jamesasb said:

how low would you estimate the temperature that it saw? 

Maybe +2°C to about 0°C, but the problem was the excess of too cold water in the pot. The tips of the leaflets wilted because of root problems, not of low temps.

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Pal Meir

Happy germination day, N°1408! Today 4 years old:

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Pal Meir

Spring is coming: 11°C 50%. The first day outdoors this year:

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