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Pal Meir

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I just found this link with pics of L insigne near Teresópolis/RJ (and not from ES as usual), also published at Palmpedia. I guess that the photo in Henderson et al. 1995, plate 32 #4 (as L weddellianum) may be also from this location:

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/20497-brazil-2009-a-prelude-to-the-2010-biennial/#comment-343028

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Lytocaryum insigne Repotting?
If your L insigne was potted in a Ø14.8xH17.4 cm plastic pot and the roots are growing out of the bottom holes (pic #1) you should consider repotting it coming spring. I recommend for the 3rd year a soil mix consisting of 2/5 Seramis + 2/5 fine pine bark + 1/5 LECA + 1-2 cm LECA on the bottom of the pot (pic #2). The pots I was using for the 1st year had the measures 8x8xH9 cm, for the 2nd year Ø14.8x17.4 cm, and now as next I use pots with 18x18xH22.5 cm (inner) / 20x20xH23 cm (outer) (pic #3). Whereas one pot has four holes on the bottom a second one without holes serves as saucer (pic #4). — I repotted palm N°1404 with its very tightly grown roots (pic #5) already today without waiting for next spring (pic #6).

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Autumn 2016:

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And some infos for all who are wondering when their L insigne might become pinnate, here the data of the first pinnate frond: N°1401 – 10th leaf; N°1402 – 11th leaf; N°1404 – 10th leaf; (N°1405 – 8th leaf;) N°1408 – 9th leaf. So please be patient, if your palm has still only strap leaves!

 

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On 18/10/2016 20:55:10, Pal Meir said:

Are these brownish silvery scales (from the rachis) on the upper side of the leaflets a characteristic feature of L insigne? :huh:

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Finally did you find out something about this characteristic?

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On 10/18/2016, 11:55:10, Pal Meir said:

Are these brownish silvery scales (from the rachis) on the upper side of the leaflets a characteristic feature of L insigne? :huh:

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My Hoehnei has this too. 

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

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Best I could do in rain. Also this plant is jammed in with tons of other plants.

 

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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8 hours ago, LJG said:

Best I could do in rain. Also this plant is jammed in with tons of other plants.

Thanks for posting. It seems to have a similar pattern: the more scales on the rachis the more distinctive appearing.

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5 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

The pattern on L hoehnei seems to be not so distinct as on L insigne:

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Nope. Not even close. Also the tomemtum falls off quicker on Hoehnei. But at these smaller sizes, Insigne has much more tomemtum anyway - so this makes sense. 

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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21 hours ago, LJG said:

Nope. Not even close. Also the tomemtum falls off quicker on Hoehnei. But at these smaller sizes, Insigne has much more tomemtum anyway - so this makes sense. 

L insigne seems to be the most tomentose Lytocaryum species, here the hairy tip of the newest leaf:

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3 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

L insigne seems to be the most tomentose Lytocaryum species, here the hairy tip of the newest leaf:

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I'm going to call it 'the hipster palm' :floor:

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Tomorrow Ill make a pic of both leaves

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Finally the old Ø14.8×H17.4cm pots became too tight and the soil couldn’t keep enough water even for one day because the root system was so strong. So I had to repot the remaining two L insigne1402 and N°1408, too.

The tight roots:

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Repotted in (inside) 18×18×H23cm pots:

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Now happy indoors on the window sill, together with N°1404: :)

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20 minutes ago, Josh76 said:

Looks beautiful @Pal Meir. I'm hoping mine will go pinnate in 2017 :D

Here the list of the first pinnate leaves: N°1401 – #10; N°1401 – #11; N°1404 — #10; (N°1405 – #8;) N°1408 – #9. So I guess the first leaf going pinnate might be #10±1:)

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Pal  to me , not   pinnate leaves, I noticed that this summer has not grown much, this species does not like the heat of meditteraneo, I also noticed that in winter is ok at home, in front of a stained glass window, but in a room without heating

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Way to go for mine! It is not very fast but I suppose that's because it doesn't receive the excellent care you give yours. But still, I am happy it is alive:-).IMG_3541.thumb.jpg.1c409753fdca523d21585

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