Palm Hybrids in Germany

[Jubutia]

Hello,

in Germany only few species can be grown outside because very long cold an wet winters. this year we have a very ugly summer until now.... only few hot days up to 25 or 30 degresse Celsius, but a lot of rain and thunderstorms, cold nights down to 10 degrees Celsius. So hotloving palms are have no good days at the moment. Good growing outside. Trachycarpus, Chamaerops, Parajubaea and some others. I.e. Brahea and Butia a lot slower.

 

So I have collected some hybrids and hope they will grow better in pots or maybe planted out with winterprotection within the next years.

 

These are some examples. Mostly grown in greenhouse to speed up grows in the first years. Please comment when thinking its no hybrid or mystify...

Any replys welcome. Have fun.

Happy Growing

Oliver

Yellow stick is 22 cm (8,6 inch) long.

Butia odorata x P coc

Next: (bxj)xs

 

Next: JxS smaler one, photo from up, scale wrong, plant is about 30 inches

Next: another JxS about 1 year older

Next: B.parag x Syagrus

Next: Butia yatay x Jubaea

[Jubutia]

Next: Same yxj from side

 

Next: (JxB) x Parajubaea Sunkha, what do you think? Interesting: leaves are getting wider without splitting/windows, no blue, not looking like seedlings of JxB F2 or other bxj and so on

 

Next: Wanted: by x j; but I got one seedling labled only as B yatay; and got money back; leaves getting blue

 

Next: Y x S

[Ben in Norcal]

Great plants!  Are these all Patric Schafer hybrids?

[Jubutia]

sorry last picture was again (jxb) x Parajubaea Sunkha...

Next: 2 plants of B.parag x P. cocoides; the juvenile leaves before splitting are very small, only about 7 or 8 inches maximum. So this makes me nervous.... realy hybrids or pure B.paraguyansis?

[Jubutia]

Next: Another seedling of (jxb)xPsunkha, now growing fast, next leaf coming, very green, leaves not as strong as jxb hybrid

 

Next: B. eriosp x S. glauc, leaves middle strong/soft

 

 

Next: B. erios x S rom Litoralis, very soft leaves

 

Last: B. eriosp x S. coronata, very strong leaves

[Jubutia]

Hello Ben,

 thank you. Most are from Patric. The B. eriospatha hybrids are grown from seeds of rps. The (jxb) x Psunkha is from an German Caycads seller. Do not know exactly if from Tim Hopper Questionhybrids or from another Seller in SouthAmerica.

[Ben in Norcal]

46 minutes ago, Jubutia said:

Hello Ben,

 thank you. Most are from Patric. The B. eriospatha hybrids are grown from seeds of rps. The (jxb) x Psunkha is from an German Caycads seller. Do not know exactly if from Tim Hopper Questionhybrids or from another Seller in SouthAmerica.

Great collection!

[Josh-O]

awesome assortment of hybrids

[PÚA]

Great collection

[Flow]

Nice hybrids that should be grown more often here. I think especially the JxS has great potential.
I used to have a Yatay x Jubaea as well but I planted it in Brissago last year. Yours looks somewhat more delicate / less robust than mine, have a look here: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/41133-yatay-x-jubaea-f1/#comment-636690

 

[Alcibiades]

Nice collection of hybrids. We do not have any experience with those hybrids here in Germany. At least as far as i know. Like with many other exotic plants to survive our winter just being frost hardy is not enough. The wet climate especcialy in February and March is a killer when day temperatures are just a bit over the freezing point but night temperatures still way below. With the constant rain in this time of the year the water is melting over the day but freezes during the nights. Thats why i dont think any Parajubaea hybrid will have a chance over here. My Parajubaeas all died and it was not because of the frost. The only hybrid i grow at the moment is Jubaea x Butia orodate F2 from seed (RPS). Maybe i should also try some of Patricks hybrids. To find another feather pam that can survive our winters without being heavily protected would be awesome.

[Jubutia]

Yes, Patric has done best hybrid palms to test in Europe. Thanks to him.

I think one of my JxS is more Syagruslike.  But the older one looks a bit more Jubaealike, didn`t make such great leaves like the younger one before splitting.

Flow, thanks for the link. I know this thread and like these Yatay x Jubaea shown there. I think mine is to young to show same compact growth. Lets see in a jew months or years :-)

[maesy]

Hi Oliver

I have just taken some up to date pictures of my hybrids that you also have.

The most show some damage from winter or the heavy late frost we had in the end of April.

J x S

[maesy]

y x j

[maesy]

y x j from a different angle

 

[maesy]

butiagrus

 

[maesy]

butia microspadix x eriospatha

 

[sergiskan]

Woow, great collection!

i hope that my eriosphata hybrids seeds from RPS will germinate 

[Tom in Tucson]

On 7/17/2016, 9:41:42, Josh-O said:

awesome assortment of hybrids

Josh, this would be a great place to upload some pics of your possibly awesome phony hybrids. 

On 7/17/2016, 8:01:32, Jubutia said:

Next: Same yxj from side

 

Next: (JxB) x Parajubaea Sunkha, what do you think? Interesting: leaves are getting wider without splitting/windows, no blue, not looking like seedlings of JxB F2 or other bxj and so on

 

Next: Wanted: by x j; but I got one seedling labled only as B yatay; and got money back; leaves getting blue

 

Next: Y x S

I've never heard of the hybrid (JxB) x Parajubaea sunkha. Needless to say I'd like to get my hands on at least one of these.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

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[Jubutia]

Hello,

@Maesy... very very nice plants. I have seen some of them in other threads. Hope mine will get the same look and size some day

Tom. The (JxB or Jubutia) x  P sunkha is a hybrid in Question. Not sure if its the real thing.  Only time will tell. But at the moment a have hope that it has some sunkha-blood in it...

Other hybrids I do have

• Mule
• Trachycarpus Princeps New hybrid (maybe princeps x fortunei)
• jxb F1
• bxj F2

[Jubutia]

Jubutia F2 x P Sunkha

First leaf with typical sign of P sunkha: v-/splitt leaf.

[Little Tex]

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