ErikSJI 305 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 So our first batch did really well. I want to hear from the palm community what they think of this tree. It has been around awhile in Cali and a few other places and we are going to do this hybrid full time now. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,224 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 I have around 10 of them. SOOOO tropical looking and do well in the Bay Area, laughing at our heat and cold. I can't wait to order some from you! They tend to be referred to as Coco Queens out here, BTW. Even if the name is stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gyuseppe 584 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 anyone knows as is cold tolerance of These hybrid? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 2,020 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 Great palm. 105f no problem 28f no problem. Fairly fast too 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJG 1,289 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 Coconut Queens are great palms. Good you are doing this cross now because Jungle Jack's isn't any longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalmatiansoap 461 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 That's x Montgomeryana right? Any seeds availeble? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kai 827 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 Got some seeds from rps some time ago and had difficulty germinating them. Just one seed germinated but I got 2 seedlings out of that seed. I hope they grow into good container plants for me as I am restricted to that in my climate. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pal Meir 5,471 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 7 hours ago, Kai said: Got some seeds from rps some time ago and had difficulty germinating them. Just one seed germinated but I got 2 seedlings out of that seed. I hope they grow into good container plants for me as I am restricted to that in my climate. What is a germination worth without labels? PS: It is the same germination type as date palms. The seed petiole is also the cotyledonary sheath. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kai 827 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Pal Meir said: What is a germination worth without labels? PS: It is the same germination type as date palms. The seed petiole is also the cotyledonary sheath. Thank you Pal for naming the palms private parts. As you might have guessed allready, the picture is the result of a repotting event I started since receiving a bag of grabdecor and rushing to the store for a new bag of seramis. The two S. schizo x romans are now individually potted up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikSJI 305 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 We only got about 30% germination. Which is not great. So we need to work on that aspect. I wonder why Jungle Jacks stopped doing the cross. I do believe on the East coast they are calling it the Super parrot at some nurseries and on the west coast it was called the Coconut Queen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Evans 552 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 Good to see you & Mark hybridizing these. They are called Syagrus × montgomeryana. I have a large one in the garden that exhibits the hybrid vigor. BTW, even F2 are good sellers. Here is a good article from PALMS. http://www.palms.org/palmsjournal/2011/vol55n3p141-154.pdf Here is a pic of the one in the garden after my neighbors 80' Australian Pine fell on one side of it last month. AAAAAHHHHHH! 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh-O 2,778 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 not to mention this palm is tough as nails. Keep up the good work Eric Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alicehunter2000 753 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Are mature Syagrus schizophylla available for purchase in south Florida ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meteorologistpalmguy 196 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Got a 7 gallon for basically pennies at Redland a few months back (they had many), and it was already flowering as of a couple months ago. 55 minutes ago, Alicehunter2000 said: Are mature Syagrus schizophylla available for purchase in south Florida ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meteorologistpalmguy 196 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Erik, now that you have started full time production, any guess on when you may have seeds/plants available for purchase? These seem really hard to find. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sashaeffer 464 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 Yes, would like to know myself when they might be available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikSJI 305 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 Will not start pollinating again in December. I will see if the guy I sold the last batch to is willing to let some go. They are redily available in California. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoomsDave 10,059 Report post Posted July 14, 2016 4 hours ago, ErikSJI said: Will not start pollinating again in December. I will see if the guy I sold the last batch to is willing to let some go. They are redily available in California. Where where where? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,224 Report post Posted July 14, 2016 1 hour ago, DoomsDave said: Where where where? In California? Josh has them, Dwight has them, Jungle Music has them...they are all over the shop at the minute... I already have 10 in the ground but can't resist getting a couple more! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikSJI 305 Report post Posted December 3, 2016 Some updated photos of pollinating Syagrus schizophylla 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awkonradi 382 Report post Posted December 3, 2016 Thank you for posting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,224 Report post Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, ErikSJI said: Some updated photos of pollinating Syagrus schizophylla Sweet! Erik, is your plan to sell the seeds of these, or just plants? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh-O 2,778 Report post Posted December 3, 2016 thanks for posting Erik!! keep us updated on how they progress Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikSJI 305 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 9 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said: Sweet! Erik, is your plan to sell the seeds of these, or just plants? Not to sure on the seeds Ben. We will set aside some seedlings for palmtalk members. We all ready have a couple growers that want all that we can produce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,224 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 Just now, ErikSJI said: Not to sure on the seeds Ben. We will set aside some seedlings for palmtalk members. We all ready have a couple growers that want all that we can produce. Cool...well, consider me on your unofficial waiting list! I already have 10 or 12 of these, but I just love them for colder climates. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikSJI 305 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 34 minutes ago, Ben in Norcal said: Cool...well, consider me on your unofficial waiting list! I already have 10 or 12 of these, but I just love them for colder climates. It is good to know they handle the colder climates. Did not think they could handle just a few clicks past the regular queen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,224 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, ErikSJI said: It is good to know they handle the colder climates. Did not think they could handle just a few clicks past the regular queen. Well, it's all relative I guess. I'm growing a lot more marginal things than these, but they certainly don't flinch at the 30 degrees that generally represents our yearly low. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkhutch 39 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 What is the lowest temps yours have seen Ben? I'm wondering if they would take my low temps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,224 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 33 minutes ago, kirkhutch said: What is the lowest temps yours have seen Ben? I'm wondering if they would take my low temps. Not been below 30 since I put my weather station in a few years back - that's generally about where we bottom out. Right on the border of 9b/10a, just barely getting a freeze. But - these guys can take a LOT lower! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRabbit 1,976 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 Schizophylla, the less hardy of the cross, should be able to survive mid to low 20s so I wouldn't worry about this hybrid until your looking at numbers below say 24f. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palmcycasnut 47 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 Well i will buy a few small ones from you as i can't find any in Arizona lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,224 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 8 hours ago, Palmcycasnut said: Well i will buy a few small ones from you as i can't find any in Arizona lol. You need to make a drive to San Diego. Lots of availability there... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkhutch 39 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 10 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said: Not been below 30 since I put my weather station in a few years back - that's generally about where we bottom out. Right on the border of 9b/10a, just barely getting a freeze. But - these guys can take a LOT lower! I'm looking into a weather station. What do you have? I see the Accutite ones on Amazon for a little over $100. Just not sure what the quality is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,224 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, kirkhutch said: I'm looking into a weather station. What do you have? I see the Accutite ones on Amazon for a little over $100. Just not sure what the quality is I expect not very good - you want something with a proper radiation shield. I have an Ambient Weather WS-2080, with upgraded radiation shield, and wireless integration for WUnderground. Fan aspiration is a plus for increased accuracy as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorCalKing 293 Report post Posted December 4, 2016 I also have an Ambient (Ambient Weather WS-1400-IP Wireless). It seems to be very accurate as well. I think I paid about $150.00. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tropicdoc 462 Report post Posted January 9, 2017 I wonder what the "coco" queen; super parrot; montgomeryana would have done this weekend in my yard.... low of 25-27 F? If could survive, would like to have a few. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmTreeDude 1,842 Report post Posted January 9, 2017 Those really do have a tropical look. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh-O 2,778 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Tropicdoc said: I wonder what the "coco" queen; super parrot; montgomeryana would have done this weekend in my yard.... low of 25-27 F? If could survive, would like to have a few. I think they would have done fine. These are very tough little buggers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikSJI 305 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Seeds are still holding well. We should expect around 5000 of them. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoomsDave 10,059 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 On 6/27/2016, 1:35:30, ErikSJI said: We only got about 30% germination. Which is not great. So we need to work on that aspect. I wonder why Jungle Jacks stopped doing the cross. I do believe on the East coast they are calling it the Super parrot at some nurseries and on the west coast it was called the Coconut Queen. How about a Schizo-Roman? Sounds like a crazy gladiator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
