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Syagrus schizophylla x Syagrus romanzoffiana Super parrot.

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ErikSJI

So our first batch did really well. I want to hear from the palm community what they think of this tree. It has been around awhile in Cali and a few other places and we are going to do this hybrid full time now.

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Ben in Norcal

I have around 10 of them.  SOOOO tropical looking and do well in the Bay Area, laughing at our heat and cold.  I can't wait to order some from you!

They tend to be referred to as Coco Queens out here, BTW.  Even if the name is stupid.

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gyuseppe

anyone knows  as is cold tolerance of These hybrid?
 

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Stevetoad

Great palm. 105f no problem 28f no problem. Fairly fast too

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LJG

Coconut Queens are great palms. Good you are doing this cross now because Jungle Jack's isn't any longer.

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dalmatiansoap

That's x Montgomeryana right? Any seeds availeble?

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Kai

Got some seeds from rps some time ago and had difficulty germinating them. Just one seed germinated but I got 2 seedlings out of that seed. I hope they grow into good container plants for me as I am restricted to that in my climate.20160626_155649.thumb.jpg.8a90184fe96eb0

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Pal Meir
7 hours ago, Kai said:

Got some seeds from rps some time ago and had difficulty germinating them. Just one seed germinated but I got 2 seedlings out of that seed. I hope they grow into good container plants for me as I am restricted to that in my climate.

What is a germination worth without labels? B)

PS: It is the same germination type as date palms. The seed petiole is also the cotyledonary sheath.

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Kai
2 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

What is a germination worth without labels? B)

PS: It is the same germination type as date palms. The seed petiole is also the cotyledonary sheath.

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Thank you Pal for naming the palms private parts. As you might have guessed allready, the picture is the result of a repotting event I started since receiving a bag of grabdecor and rushing to the store for a new bag of seramis.

The two S. schizo x romans are now individually potted up.

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ErikSJI

We only got about 30% germination. Which is not great. So we need to work on that aspect. I wonder why Jungle Jacks stopped doing the cross. I do believe on the East coast they are calling it the Super parrot at some nurseries and on the west coast it was called the Coconut Queen.

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Mike Evans

Good to see you & Mark hybridizing these.  They are called  Syagrus × montgomeryana.  I have a large one in the garden that exhibits the hybrid vigor.  BTW, even F2 are good sellers.  Here is a good article from PALMS.

http://www.palms.org/palmsjournal/2011/vol55n3p141-154.pdf

Here is a pic of the one in the garden after my neighbors 80' Australian Pine fell on one side of it last month.  AAAAAHHHHHH!

 

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Josh-O

not to mention this palm is tough as nails.

Keep up the good work Eric

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Alicehunter2000

 Are mature Syagrus schizophylla available for purchase in south Florida ?

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meteorologistpalmguy

Got a 7 gallon for basically pennies at Redland a few months back (they had many), and it was already flowering as of a couple months ago.

55 minutes ago, Alicehunter2000 said:

 Are mature Syagrus schizophylla available for purchase in south Florida ?

 

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meteorologistpalmguy

Erik, now that you have started full time production, any guess on when you may have seeds/plants available for purchase?  These seem really hard to find.

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sashaeffer

Yes, would like to know myself when they might be available.

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ErikSJI

Will not start pollinating again in December. I will see if the guy I sold the last batch to is willing to let some go. They are redily available in California.

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DoomsDave
4 hours ago, ErikSJI said:

Will not start pollinating again in December. I will see if the guy I sold the last batch to is willing to let some go. They are redily available in California.

Where where where? :drool:

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Ben in Norcal
1 hour ago, DoomsDave said:

Where where where? :drool:

In California?  Josh has them, Dwight has them, Jungle Music has them...they are all over the shop at the minute...

I already have 10 in the ground but can't resist getting a couple more!

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ErikSJI

Some updated photos of pollinating Syagrus schizophylla

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awkonradi

Thank you for posting.

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Ben in Norcal
1 hour ago, ErikSJI said:

Some updated photos of pollinating Syagrus schizophylla

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Sweet!  Erik, is your plan to sell the seeds of these, or just plants?

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Josh-O

thanks for posting Erik!!

keep us updated on how they progress :)

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ErikSJI
9 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Sweet!  Erik, is your plan to sell the seeds of these, or just plants?

Not to sure on the seeds Ben. We will set aside some seedlings for palmtalk members. We all ready have a couple growers that want all that we can produce.

 

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Ben in Norcal
Just now, ErikSJI said:

Not to sure on the seeds Ben. We will set aside some seedlings for palmtalk members. We all ready have a couple growers that want all that we can produce.

 

Cool...well, consider me on your unofficial waiting list!  I already have 10 or 12 of these, but I just love them for colder climates.

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ErikSJI
34 minutes ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Cool...well, consider me on your unofficial waiting list!  I already have 10 or 12 of these, but I just love them for colder climates.

It is good to know they handle the colder climates. Did not think they could handle just a few clicks past the regular queen.

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Ben in Norcal
3 minutes ago, ErikSJI said:

It is good to know they handle the colder climates. Did not think they could handle just a few clicks past the regular queen.

Well, it's all relative I guess.  I'm growing a lot more marginal things than these, but they certainly don't flinch at the 30 degrees that generally represents our yearly low.

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kirkhutch

What is the lowest temps yours have seen Ben? I'm wondering if they would take my low temps. 

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Ben in Norcal
33 minutes ago, kirkhutch said:

What is the lowest temps yours have seen Ben? I'm wondering if they would take my low temps. 

Not been below 30 since I put my weather station in a few years back - that's generally about where we bottom out.  Right on the border of 9b/10a, just barely getting a freeze.  But - these guys can take a LOT lower!

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RedRabbit

Schizophylla, the less hardy of the cross, should be able to survive mid to low 20s so I wouldn't worry about this hybrid until your looking at numbers below say 24f. 

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Palmcycasnut

Well i will buy a few small ones from you as i can't  find any in Arizona lol.   

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Ben in Norcal
8 hours ago, Palmcycasnut said:

Well i will buy a few small ones from you as i can't  find any in Arizona lol.   

You need to make a drive to San Diego.  Lots of availability there...

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kirkhutch
10 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Not been below 30 since I put my weather station in a few years back - that's generally about where we bottom out.  Right on the border of 9b/10a, just barely getting a freeze.  But - these guys can take a LOT lower!

I'm looking into a weather station. What do you have? I see the Accutite ones on Amazon for a little over $100. Just not sure what the quality is   

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Ben in Norcal
7 minutes ago, kirkhutch said:

I'm looking into a weather station. What do you have? I see the Accutite ones on Amazon for a little over $100. Just not sure what the quality is   

I expect not very good - you want something with a proper radiation shield.  I have an Ambient Weather WS-2080, with upgraded radiation shield, and wireless integration for WUnderground.  Fan aspiration is a plus for increased accuracy as well.

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NorCalKing

I also have an Ambient (Ambient Weather WS-1400-IP Wireless). It seems to be very accurate as well. I think I paid about $150.00.

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Tropicdoc

I wonder what the "coco" queen; super parrot; montgomeryana would have done this weekend in my yard.... low of 25-27 F? If could survive, would like to have a few.

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PalmTreeDude

Those really do have a tropical look.

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Josh-O
7 hours ago, Tropicdoc said:

I wonder what the "coco" queen; super parrot; montgomeryana would have done this weekend in my yard.... low of 25-27 F? If could survive, would like to have a few.

I think they would have done fine. These are very tough little buggers!

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ErikSJI

Seeds are still holding well. We should expect around 5000 of them.

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DoomsDave
On 6/27/2016, 1:35:30, ErikSJI said:

We only got about 30% germination. Which is not great. So we need to work on that aspect. I wonder why Jungle Jacks stopped doing the cross. I do believe on the East coast they are calling it the Super parrot at some nurseries and on the west coast it was called the Coconut Queen.

How about a Schizo-Roman? Sounds like a crazy gladiator.

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