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Father's Day Sabal growth

Stevetoad

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I planted a this sabal causiarum for my son on Father's Day a month before he was born. Every Father's Day I take a pic of it to track it's growth and my sons growth. So here it is. Planted June 2011 until now. It's much faster than my boy 

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Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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11 minutes ago, talkjk said:

Thats a great idea. Thats a really good looking Sabal.

Thanks. Seems to get floppier every year. 

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Santee ca, zone10a/9b

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Great growth on that Steve!  Interesting how the leaves keep changing.  Tips are getting insanely feathery.

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14 hours ago, Firepalm said:

Great growth on that Steve!  Interesting how the leaves keep changing.  Tips are getting insanely feathery.

I know. I'm still not 100% on what it is. It's got the long liguels so it's causiarum to most but I her domigensis has the liguels from others. It's one of them. 

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Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Great pictures! Keep em coming!

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Five years? Wow ... nice brother. Well done and a great tribute planting.

Cheers, Barrie.

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38 minutes ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Hybrid vigor?

Could be... But it could be also good soil (makes wonders), air moisture (which actually we miss during our summer) making leaf transpiration less intense and thus  equal amount of water induces more growth (as the portion needed for preservation o0f existing foliage is smaller), longer lasting yearly of growth promoting temps or a combination of all above factors. 

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Great Idea and very fast growth - they are painfully slow down here in coastal Tasmania

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Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
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image.jpeg.662306e71167a1ce89a6f6a50b61d Great project and nice progression........Look out for the giant bug swooping in though!

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13 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Could be... But it could be also good soil (makes wonders), air moisture (which actually we miss during our summer) making leaf transpiration less intense and thus  equal amount of water induces more growth (as the portion needed for preservation o0f existing foliage is smaller), longer lasting yearly of growth promoting temps or a combination of all above factors. 

I don't know what but something is going on there. How many people can say they have so fast growing palm of any kind? No one considers Sabals as fast growing specie? Or I'm missing something :blush:? Absolutely fantastic!

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13 minutes ago, dalmatiansoap said:

I don't know what but something is going on there. How many people can say they have so fast growing palm of any kind? No one considers Sabals as fast growing specie? Or I'm missing something :blush:? Absolutely fantastic!

it's that Santee heat.

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Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

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Great pictures Steve. Yes, the heat is the key along with plenty of water. Sabals grow by leaps and bounds if they get constant watering in that heat.

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On 6/20/2016, 7:53:06, Stevetoad said:

I planted a this sabal causiarum for my son on Father's Day a month before he was born. Every Father's Day I take a pic of it to track it's growth and my sons growth. So here it is. Planted June 2011 until now. It's much faster than my boy 

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whoa!!!! that is some serious growth!!

I'm going to plant mine asap!!!

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On 6/22/2016, 1:07:55, Stevetoad said:

I know. I'm still not 100% on what it is. It's got the long liguels so it's causiarum to most but I her domigensis has the liguels from others. It's one of them. 

dude! you have the highly coveted Sabal causiarumensis

way to go bro!!

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Congrats, and well I am doing something wrong.  Share you secrets.

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I think the faster growth is due to my place getting hotter than most other spots in santee and its planted inside my retaining wall that's all backfill. It has great drainage there. Although I have a riverside to my buddy about a half mile from me and his is fast too.  Might just be the heat. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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11 minutes ago, Stevetoad said:

I think the faster growth is due to my place getting hotter than most other spots in santee and its planted inside my retaining wall that's all backfill. It has great drainage there. Although I have a riverside to my buddy about a half mile from me and his is fast too.  Might just be the heat. 

they are indeed heat lovers!

great pictures brother!!

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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7 hours ago, Josh-O said:

they are indeed heat lovers!

great pictures brother!!

Thanks josh. Reading my post showed me why I should post and drive. Looks like English is my second language. I meant hotter than most spots in San Diego and I gave one to my buddy not have one to him. 

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18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Guess it's that time of year for an update. Thing is still blowing up. Vance can now climb it like the monkey he is.  

 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Yes, I have noticed the retaining wall drainage aspect works. And as an added bonus, if it is south or west facing it retains heat for winter growth, etc. Nice Sabal!

Mission Viejo, CA

Limited coastal influence

5-10 days of frost

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Is it also fruiting? Besides are the petioles on their proximal part very keeled?

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The growth rate on this sabal is very impressive.

Clearly, it is happy!

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On 6/19/2017, 8:25:06, Stevetoad said:

Guess it's that time of year for an update. Thing is still blowing up. Vance can now climb it like the monkey he is.  

 

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Time for an update. Had to change angles due to other palms blocking the view now. 

 

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That is some serious growth in such a short amount of time. What a cool experience to share with your son. Beautiful palm.  :) happy Father’s Day 

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7 hours ago, 5150cycad said:

That is some serious growth in such a short amount of time. What a cool experience to share with your son. Beautiful palm.  :) happy Father’s Day 

Thank you. It’s crazy how this Sabal has changed. It was fairly stiff leaved then very weepy now it’s getting stiff leaved again but now that it’s starting to trunk you can see that it’s starting to get more compact. I think this year I will see more vertical growth and less width. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Toadster - That trunk is such a fatty. Surprised how the retaining wall has not gotten pushed by the roots. When you first planted it, those were my thoughts. Figured why mention it, you would be happy to have such a problem in the future. It obviously loves where its at. :wub: 

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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1 hour ago, Moose said:

Toadster - That trunk is such a fatty. Surprised how the retaining wall has not gotten pushed by the roots. When you first planted it, those were my thoughts. Figured why mention it, you would be happy to have such a problem in the future. It obviously loves where its at. :wub: 

It did push the wall out. I ended up curving the wall there about 3 feet out. Luckily I was building my pond when I did so I had plenty of dirt to fill it. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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That palm is a beauty. Awesome growth chart  on both the palm and your son. Keep the pictures coming :D

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On 6/17/2018 at 12:42 PM, Stevetoad said:

Time for an update. Had to change angles due to other palms blocking the view now. 

 

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Getting hard to photograph this thing. But here’s my news update. Bother are growing up fast. 

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avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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What an awesome timeline to go with a massive specimen of a palm.  :greenthumb:Definitely my favorite looking Sabal ! 

T J 

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This is epic!

It is so nice to have such a great documentation with your child and a well growing, really great looking plant!

Thank you very much for sharing!

Best regards -

Lars

 

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Magnificent! I just ordered me 2. Hope they turn out to be half as fast as yours. I'd be happy with that! 

Happy Father's day to you & the rest of the fathers out there!

Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

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2021 update. Getting really hard to get that shot now. 

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avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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