sashaeffer 465 Report post Posted May 21, 2016 Getting this beauty next week(one on left) and was wondering if anyone here had any growing experience with this palm long term. While I have 7 T. Fortunei in the ground here in my climate this one will remain potted(into larger one than shown) when I get it. It has experienced down to 14f in cold frame so far Anyone have one of these long term? Scott/Omaha USA 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimhardy 695 Report post Posted May 21, 2016 They are one of the most beautiful Trachys and quite often overlooked...I don't have any that size but the very small one I have in the ground has proved to be quite tough. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfish 360 Report post Posted May 21, 2016 I've got a couple in the ground here in Gainesville, but they obviously haven't been tested as far as cold is concerned. That's a really nice one there! They are painfully slow! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,238 Report post Posted May 21, 2016 I have one in the ground here. Seems about as care-free as any other Trachy I have. Definitely one of the slower ones though. That's probably good for you, Scott. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Las Palmas Norte 580 Report post Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) I was given one by another palm enthusiast, a few years ago. Smaller than the ones you've pictured but should be fine in my 8b garden. I'd like to plant it on out this spring, just have to remember and get to it. Best of luck with yours. Cheers, Barrie. Edited May 21, 2016 by Las Palmas Norte 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sashaeffer 465 Report post Posted May 22, 2016 22 hours ago, Jimhardy said: They are one of the most beautiful Trachys and quite often overlooked...I don't have any that size but the very small one I have in the ground has proved to be quite tough. How many years in the ground Jim? This one I'm getting will be in 20 gallon container as I really don't have room left around the house for anymore in the ground palms, let along the electricity to over winter them. Maxing out the electrical load on various circuits as it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimhardy 695 Report post Posted May 22, 2016 Just a couple and it is very small but this year it should produce divided leaves... I have been in the same situation with maxing out electricity... the solution is more insulation as it takes less heat... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sashaeffer 465 Report post Posted May 25, 2016 T. Manipur arrived and much nicer than I could have hoped. Will enjoy a nice sunny spot on back patio with a Mule palm(in corner) and many other species. For $60 + Shipping couldn't pass it up. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Las Palmas Norte 580 Report post Posted May 26, 2016 Nice score! Cheers, Barrie. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfish 360 Report post Posted June 2, 2016 $60 + shipping is a ridiculously good price for a T. 'Manipur' of that size. SCORE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sashaeffer 465 Report post Posted June 2, 2016 I sure thought so! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Mondel 819 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 You got a steal! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howeadypsis 130 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 Very nice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sashaeffer 465 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 He has more! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howeadypsis 130 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, sashaeffer said: He has more! Unfortunately I'm in England with a postage stamp sized garden 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenikakias 2,013 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 Manipur is the former inofficial name for the valid ukhrulense. Some people see a greate similarity and perhaps even a conspecific relationship between manipur/ukhrulense, takil and oreophilus. Is there any practical way that we can tell them apart at that size and age? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pal Meir 5,485 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Howeadypsis said: Unfortunately I'm in England with a postage stamp sized garden So I would recommend a Trachycarpus bonsaii, which might fit to your postage stamp garden, too (it is now 13 years old and was last winter all days outdoors; the Ø of the pot is 12 cm): 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howeadypsis 130 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Pal Meir said: So I would recommend a Trachycarpus bonsaii, which might fit to your postage stamp garden, too (it is now 13 years old and was last winter all days outdoors; the Ø of the pot is 12 cm): That looks fantastic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Explorer 15 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 Best to plant that bonsai Trachycarpus out in the garden! At a sunny shelterd spot it should do well. Alexander 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howeadypsis 130 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Explorer said: Best to plant that bonsai Trachycarpus out in the garden! At a sunny shelterd spot it should do well. Alexander I love it, think it's great Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pal Meir 5,485 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Explorer said: Best to plant that bonsai Trachycarpus out in the garden! At a sunny shelterd spot it should do well. Alexander No, I won’t plant it in the ground. My aim is to keep it small as long as possible so that I can host it in my green home for further 100 years. All other Trachys I owned got too big and I had to give them away (and most of them died), only two other bonsai Trachys I planted in 2007 resp. 2014 in ground in Heidelberg (cf. Cold Hardy Palms). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimhardy 695 Report post Posted July 10, 2016 Beautiful! I think this palm will rival Princeps when more people are growing mature specimens. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flow 246 Report post Posted July 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Jimhardy said: Beautiful! I think this palm will rival Princeps when more people are growing mature specimens. It won't rival princeps here since it is quite a bit less hardy. That said, I've planted one this spring:-). Here it is: 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimhardy 695 Report post Posted July 11, 2016 I think Manipur will surprise people, esp when those leaves turn white underneath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Las Palmas Norte 580 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 My T. 'manipur' has a very noticeable fluffy brown fuzz, if you will, along the lower petioles. Here it is in a 2 gallon pot, overdue to be planted (this spring). I suspect the crown will widen once it's planted in open ground. Being confined in it's 2 gallon pot limits it's ability to carry lower fronds. Cheers, Barrie. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flow 246 Report post Posted March 15, 2017 Nice one, Barrie. Mine didn't like its first winter too much but it's alive: 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flow 246 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 Btw., the absolute low was only around -10C but temperatures in January basically never rose above 0 often staying at -4/-5 during the day, the average mean temperature was -3. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone 2,869 Report post Posted March 21, 2017 On 20/03/2017, 5:12:26, Flow said: Btw., the absolute low was only around -10C but temperatures in January basically never rose above 0 often staying at -4/-5 during the day, the average mean temperature was -3. Man. They are tough palms then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flow 246 Report post Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Yes but mind you, my waggy still looks pristine and has no scratch while this one is half dead. It is much less hardy tan fortunei/wagnerianus. Edited March 22, 2017 by Flow 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vic 112 Report post Posted April 21, 2017 I think these are fabulous palms. I've had one planted out for about 5 years. I grew it from seed in about 2004 and it was incredibly slow until it was planted out. Last year it produced about 7-8 leaves and its trunking nicely now. I honestly think this will rival princeps in the coming years. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimhardy 695 Report post Posted June 26, 2017 Thats a nice one...I guess from Steve in Alabama??? I have a similar one in the ground now, looking to add a Nanus,Naga Hills,Latisectus and Geminisectus by the end of the week..... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alberto 1,622 Report post Posted June 29, 2017 I am growing T. ukrulensis ´(Manipur) for several years.I germinted and grew the little palms. They are not fast growers bt the last years are finally forming some trunks 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alberto 1,622 Report post Posted June 29, 2017 I don´t know why but when I rotate the photo it cannot be uploaded anymore to this forum. My biggest manipur was photographed this way 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimhardy 695 Report post Posted July 1, 2017 Really nice! Certainly has a distinct look to it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lapalmeraie 158 Report post Posted July 11, 2017 Hi I have two small ukhrulenses in the ground, one since only several weeks but in my collection since three or four years and the other one planted in the ground since 2012 in think. This last one lacks the white bottom of the leaves but maybe this feature will only show on older leaves. Any way, I didn't protect them much more than just a little plastic tipi when it temps got lower than -10°C (14°F) but man... they are slow! Although they have devided leaves since some years now the are still very small and crouching. Kr Niek 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lapalmeraie 158 Report post Posted July 11, 2017 Found the picture of the one that is planted in the ground since 2012. Back then still known as a manipur "Mount Victoria" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flow 246 Report post Posted July 11, 2017 I have a small Trachycarpus 'Mount Victoria' which is also very slow but I am not convinced it is the same as T. ukhrulensis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lapalmeraie 158 Report post Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Well you may be right! As said, it lacks for now the whitish bottom on the fronds which does occur on my other ukhrulensis of the same size, planted just weeks ago. Edited July 12, 2017 by lapalmeraie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flow 246 Report post Posted July 12, 2017 Who knows but nice to see some other Mt. Victoria. There aren't that many around. Here's mine next to my ukhrulensis (still recovering). It always looks a bit chlorotic.. I have no smaller ukhrulensis to compare it to. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lapalmeraie 158 Report post Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) I was wrong I found the photos and its the Mount Victoria that has the white color, not the other one Edited July 12, 2017 by lapalmeraie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites