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Earliest size to transplant Jubaea's to ground?


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Have some 4-6 strap leaf jubaea's in 1/2 and 1gallon pots. Potentially relocating this year. Rather than bringing with me was considering planting them with Family in NW Florida in sandy ground in open field with good drainage. It's USDA 8b/9a.

In general, regardless of zone, how well do Jubaea's do being put in ground this small? My plan was to always try them out in NW Florida, but wasn't planning on doing it with them this early.

Advice/thoughts?

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I'd imagine these would do fine. Root down nicely and gain some form of establishing while the season is favorable. Some form of periodic protection may be needed if winter cold creeps in ... burlap wrap etc. I've always believed palms in general, grow quicker when allowed to grow with an unobstructed root run. Ideally you may wait until the pinnate leaves form before planting.

Cheers, Barrie.

 

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Josh:

Those are nice babies you have there! They've obviously had a good daddy looking after them!

Be warned that Jubes don't like the high heat and humidity of the American South, and tend to give up. That's what other Palm Talkers have advised over the years. (If anyone disagrees, tell Josh and me!) That said, no harm in experimenting with a couple. The site has nice, sandy soil, which can't hurt.

I'd wait till they start to put out pinnate leaves. Little babies tend to get fungus a lot; I've found that it's less of a problem when they grow a bit and put out feather leaves. They fatten and toughen up a lot. Jubes aren't the easy grow that Phoenix canariensis are, alas.

Also, if you can, it would be a good idea to try and get some Jubaea hybrids, particularly with Butea or Syagrus romanzoffianum. They'll take the conditions there a lot better.

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On May 16, 2016 at 6:06:08 PM, DoomsDave said:

Josh:

Those are nice babies you have there! They've obviously had a good daddy looking after them!

Be warned that Jubes don't like the high heat and humidity of the American South, and tend to give up. That's what other Palm Talkers have advised over the years. (If anyone disagrees, tell Josh and me!) That said, no harm in experimenting with a couple. The site has nice, sandy soil, which can't hurt.

I'd wait till they start to put out pinnate leaves. Little babies tend to get fungus a lot; I've found that it's less of a problem when they grow a bit and put out feather leaves. They fatten and toughen up a lot. Jubes aren't the easy grow that Phoenix canariensis are, alas.

Also, if you can, it would be a good idea to try and get some Jubaea hybrids, particularly with Butea or Syagrus romanzoffianum. They'll take the conditions there a lot better.

Dave & Barrie, thanks for the insight and advice.

Dave, i enjoy the whole growingprocess, especially when starting from seed. I figured I'd give these guys a shot in NW Florida as I've got access to some open unused land. If they don't make it, that's ok too. Are there any general critical rules of thumb when moving from pot to ground (watering, fertilize habits)? I don't want to sentence these little guys to the compost pile through some ignorant choices.

When do you think my Jubaea leaves will go pinnate? These are prob 18 months old.

I like your idea on a Jubaea hybrid. Had priced some seed out and the hybrid seed tends to be as expensive or more than non hybrid seed. Need to do some checking around again on prices.

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Some members have had success with Jubaeas in North Carolina and South Carolina (zone 8) they completely cover the entire Palm with a roof  throughout winter to keep moisture out of the crown and root zone. 

Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

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Here's one ... I don't recall from who or the exact location, but it is in or around the Puget Sound area of Washington or the Portland, OR region. My assumption is that it was brought in as a large specimen already and given a chance at growing on. Maybe someone remembers this pic and can ID it's location and current status.

Cheers, Barrie.

 

 

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Don't plant a jubaea in the ground until it has gone Pinnate, which is at minimum a 3gallon but usually a 5 gallon.  I personally won't plant anything smaller than a 15G here for myself or customers.  Jubaea are very sensitive to overhead watering (even rain water) and humidity until they get to the 5G size.

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Agree...with the above statement. I have found seedlings in general are very slow in the ground. 

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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I keep my small potted one under the canopy of a white pine tree to keep most rain water away from it.

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