Jump to content
New to Palms2

Problems with new Kentia and Pygmy Date Palms

Recommended Posts

New to Palms2

About 6 weeks ago, we bought 4 palms from the Home Depot in Laguna Niguel, CA.  2 are Kentias -- they were stored in the shaded part of the garden area -- not quite inside, not quite outside.  Both looked healthy, but one was pretty overgrown for its pot (over 6' tall).  The other Kentia is about 4' tall. 

The Pygmy date palms were stored in the outdoor, sunny part of the garden area.  They're each 3 trunks, and about 3-4' tall.

I live about a mile from the ocean, so the temperature doesn't generally get too hot.  When we planted the trees, we added palm mix with the soil.  Our regular soil has a lot of clay.  Most of my neighbors have palms, especially pygmy date palms.  Not sure how many have Kentias.

The plants were doing pretty well for the first couple of weeks.  At about the 3rd week, we had about a week long heat wave -- sunny all day and temps in the 90s.  Since then, the larger of the Kentias hasn't looked too happy -- kind of droopy, and some of the fronds have died (we cut one off, and now another one is dead.)  The other Kentia seems to be doing o.k.

Also, for the Pygmy date palms, one of the plants has some brown fronds.  The other one seems o.k.

I'm attaching photos of the plants -- the first 2 pictures are of the trees that aren't doing very well.  The last 2 are the trees that seem to be o.k.  I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to care for these plants -- how often to water, etc.

Thank you!

20160505_160856.jpg

20160505_160919.jpg

20160505_160931.jpg

20160505_160938.jpg

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Neil C

they look pretty good to me. might just be a bit of transplant shock. as long as it's the older leaves browning i wouldn't worry to much but keep an eye on them anyway.

Regards Neil

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal

They look like greenhouse-grown plants adapting to being outside, to me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
gtsteve

Hi Kathleen, welcome to Palmtalk.

Yes, as the others have said, the old leaves dying off after a move is common.

I would not be worrying about them yet, as for watering you will have to see how fast they dry out there.

But starting a twice a week then down to once might be a good place to start.

depending on your rainfall after summer they may not need supplementary water at all after that.

See what your neighbors do.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Kevin S
7 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

They look like greenhouse-grown plants adapting to being outside, to me.

 I agree also and usually greenhouse plants will shrink a little after they are planted in the sun.  Leaf size will be smaller and fewer until the plant finally gets established.

My Kentia I picked up from Home Depot  looked a lot worse than yours in the transition stage from greenhouse to full sun. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Palm Tree Jim

Most likely some transplant shock.

The kentia may see some leave burn if it was a greenhouse plant but it will adjust over time. As for the date palms, they look fine.

Make sure to give plenty of water and maybe some fertilizer to help as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
New to Palms2

Thank you all for your thoughts and advice!

Kathleen

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ChrisJordanDDS

I've found that Kentia's in SoCal do better the closer you are to the coast.  I'm in RSM and mine has never really looked great; always some leaf burn.  I think that they like the more mild and wetter coastal conditions, so Laguna Niguel will probably be fine but hopefully they're not in full sun.  Some afternoon protection is probably best for them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Palm Tree Jim
2 minutes ago, ChrisJordanDDS said:

I've found that Kentia's in SoCal do better the closer you are to the coast.  I'm in RSM and mine has never really looked great; always some leaf burn.  I think that they like the more mild and wetter coastal conditions, so Laguna Niguel will probably be fine but hopefully they're not in full sun.  Some afternoon protection is probably best for them.

Agree.....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palmfriend

The exactly same happened to my Kentias after planting them out in my yard. They looked beautiful with

strong green leaves at first and got quite quickly heavily burned in their new position (full sun all day long).

[I had kept them in half sun/half shadow for the first few weeks but it was obviously not enough time to get them used to it.]

They were even shrinking during the first year but now they are really starting through with pushing new spears

all the time and with very healthy looking leaves.

best regards

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Similar Content

    • Aidan
      By Aidan
      hello, 
      I would be very grateful for some help with my Kentia (Howea Forsteriana). Some leaves have turned black, as you can see in the pics. The frond that is most affected also has some visible problem on the stalk (also in pics).  The plant gets good indirect sunlight (but was in a darker spot for a few weeks after I bought it) and no very cold temperatures or drafts. I don't think it has been seriously overwatered but maybe slightly overwatered on occasion in the past.
      I bought it about two months ago and repotted it at that time. I realised later (partly from reading on palmtalk) that the soil I used was probably a bit too heavy for it, and also I'm not sure the pot is suitable (it has taproots and likes to be a bit more potbound). When I read about the soil, I repotted it again about 2 weeks ago with lighter soil. I subsequently read that the plant hates being repotted! Oops. Bit of a learning curve. When I repotted it, I noticed a few dead roots, which I cut with a scissors. 
      Does the pot look too big? If it is too big should I leave it some time before repotting again or do it now, when it is dormant, in winter (in Dublin, Ireland)? Any thoughts on the black leaves and the stalk rot? The black leaves affects a few fronds including at least one of the young fronds (but most notable on the one photographed, which has the bad stalk).  I am thinking of giving it around 200ml every two weeks during winter (I have given it a bit more than that in the past, which maybe contributed to the issues). When watering, should I water from below (but I'm the roots don't reach down to the bottom of the vase)? 
      Very grateful for any advice!!
      Thank you! 
      Aidan. 



    • sashaeffer
      By sashaeffer
      Kentia being listed by many sources as one of the 5 best palms for indoors because ease of care etc I was wondering if there are any members on Palmtalk that keep a Kentia palm indoors year around in Northern climates?
      I did a search in the "palms in pots" section and read many pages with pictures of Kentia palms succumbing when brought indoors.
      Anyone with positive stories? if so, what is the care your Kentia receives, placement, how long have you had etc.
      Personally I've been through like 5/6 No direct light, keeping it dry, keeping it damp, RO water, rain water, bottled water....doesn't make a difference.
    • sashaeffer
      By sashaeffer
      Looking for seller of smaller (under 3 feet) kentia palms sold bare root only.
    • rhallford826
      By rhallford826
      Hey everyone, I have a large lot of Howea forsteriana (Kentia Palms) in 5 gallon ($35 and up), 7 gallon ($50 and up), 10 gallon ($60 and up), and 25 gallon ($175 and up). Prices vary from plant to plant depending on size. These have been grown outside and fully acclimated for exterior applications (no greenhouse). The 25 gallon plants are over 15 years old. Pick up only, no shipping available. Text me if interested, my cell is 805-813-3999. Thanks for looking


    • anyca
      By anyca
      Hi all,
      We have a Kentia that has soil that literally dries out every 2 days. We bottom water to try and have it keep on to SOME moisture, but whenever we probe a day or two after, it is dry to the bone again. It is shedding and yellowing some bottom baby leaves.
       
      I've been made aware it's really not good to repot palms if it can be avoided, so turning to you all for advice here.. should we repot with denser soil? Potting mix 50% and perlite 50%? Or should we not touch it? 
       
      Appreciate any advice,
      Annika
×
×
  • Create New...