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Kai

I just discovered the ol' bottle is no more. Seems I have to go to liquor store first and buy me a smoky Islay.

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Sanips
10 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

You may ask :huh: why I am posting this monthly update (of a kind of snail race :asleep:). It is meant for all (?) those PalmTalkers (e.g. @Kai, @Bananengeknl) who too have seedlings of this most rare (and in its habitat extinct :bemused:) species and would like to know :indifferent: if their very valuable seedlings are growing »normal« compared to my four (or 5) seedlings. :mellow:

If this continuing posting should not be necessary any more or of too limited interest I’ll quit this »germination« thread, because all my seeds have already germinated (or are rotten). :interesting:

I don't write to often but I appreciate your posts and updates, you're providing insteresting information about this genus like a research project with tons of valuable images (visual information always helps). So I would like to engourage you keeping with this ^_^

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Davi Aguiar

I also enjoy reading it, though it' my first post in this thread.

Thank you!

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On 1 November 2016 at 10:23:47 PM, Pal Meir said:

You may ask :huh: why I am posting this monthly update (of a kind of snail race :asleep:). It is meant for all (?) those PalmTalkers (e.g. @Kai, @Bananengeknl) who too have seedlings of this most rare (and in its habitat extinct :bemused:) species and would like to know :indifferent: if their very valuable seedlings are growing »normal« compared to my four (or 5) seedlings. :mellow:

If this continuing posting should not be necessary any more or of too limited interest I’ll quit this »germination« thread, because all my seeds have already germinated (or are rotten). :interesting:

Pal, please don't even think about not posting ...although I don't have this one ( not just yet) I am very interested to read and learn from your posts ...

please keep up the good work.:rolleyes:

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caixeta

My baby is going well . However my seeds are still sleeping .013.thumb.JPG.a7cfea2ad9f36d89a84af637bc012.thumb.JPG.efd8544067347229b867af73a3

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PalmTreeDude

Nice job! I like that you recorded every step of the way! 

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Al in Kona

My seeds are still sleeping too, I understand they can take a long time to germinate so I still have hopes since I tested my seeds to see if they still sink when placed in water and they do.

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Cindy Adair

I am enjoying this photo journal! Thanks!

 

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Pal Meir

I hope that my youngest baby will survive, too … :unsure:

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Kai
4 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

I hope that my youngest baby will survive, too … :unsure:

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Looks very hopefull Pal!

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Pal Meir

:interesting: The November issue of Itapebi Monthly:

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Pal Meir

Close-up of the undead (or definitely living?) N°1608: :indifferent:

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And no breaking news, no happy events elsewhere in the L itapebiense world? :mellow:

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Pal Meir

BTW, N°1608 is the only seedling that is grown up in a (nano-) greenhouse:

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Kai
40 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

Close-up of the undead (or definitely living?) N°1608: :indifferent:

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And no breaking news, no happy events elsewhere in the L itapebiense world? :mellow:

No breaking news yet Pal. 2nd leaf on my seedling is very very slow and maybe 2 mm growth since my last update.

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Pal Meir
24 minutes ago, Kai said:

No breaking news yet Pal. 2nd leaf on my seedling is very very slow and maybe 2 mm growth since my last update.

Yes, Kai, since November the growth (of all my palms) is sloooowing down. For comparison, the 2nd leaf of N°1604 is now growing only 2 mm in 3 days (22 mm since 2016-10-29). It’s really a snail race … :asleep:

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caixeta

UIPI URRA !!!!!!:yay::yay::drool:.I 'm very happy today . After long 200 days , 8 cute babies.   The Caixeta turtle surpassed the Pal hare.  Happy to contribute to the preservation of such rare palm.58431c18deb98_Lytocaryumitapebiensis002.58431c5cc77f5_Lytocaryumitapebiensis004.58431c972b25e_Lytocaryumitapebiensis005.

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Pal Meir
7 minutes ago, caixeta said:

UIPI URRA !!!!!!:yay::yay::drool:.I 'm very happy today . After long 200 days , 8 cute babies.   The Caixeta turtle surpassed the Pal hare.  Happy to contribute to the preservation of such rare palm.

Congratulations! That’s fantastic, realmente fantástico! :greenthumb::o

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Pal Meir

Today we have another good news from the snail race: N°1601 is showing the tip of its 3rd leaf! :D

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Pal Meir

Following a short history of my seedlings (or: A report from the snail race): :interesting:

When I gained a germination rate of 50% from 2016-04-20 to 2016-05-08 I decided one month after the first germination to experiment a little bit with my 4 (+1 from @Bananengeknl ) remaining seeds and exposed them to to direct sun, what resulted in the 6th germination on 2016-05-31, but the seedling died six days later. :(

In July I made a similar experiment on 2016-07-20. The result was that the seed from Bananengeknl (N°1607) and the 7th seed of the batch (N°1608) germinated the next day on 2016-07-21 :greenthumb:; a couple of days later the remaining two seeds showed rotten pores of the endocarp. :sick: (I guess that the direct sun might have been too hot. :indifferent:) The seedling N°1607 stopped growing ca 10 days after germination :crying:, the seedling N°1608 did not develop a deep radicle, so that I put it in a small nano-greenhouse. ^_^

The output of my 10 seed batch from 2016-03-29 is at present six healthy seedlings, i.e. 6/10. :)

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Pal Meir

Today a better photo of baby N°1601 :wub: showing all leaves completely:

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Kai

Congratulations Pal! I'm still looking at the tip of the 2nd leaf...

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Pal Meir
3 hours ago, Kai said:

Congratulations Pal! I'm still looking at the tip of the 2nd leaf...

But I guess that the 2nd leaf of your N°1605 is much longer than this 3rd leaf of N°1601:

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Jamesasb

Congratulations all of you who are growing these beautiful palms

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edric

Great work Jens, Ed

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Kai
15 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

But I guess that the 2nd leaf of your N°1605 is much longer than this 3rd leaf of N°1601:

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Well... here is my sad excuse of a Lyto ita... At least there is some growth and no further browning of the first leaf...

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Pal Meir
On 7.12.2016, 10:38:13, Kai said:

Well... here is my sad excuse of a Lyto ita... At least there is some growth and no further browning of the first leaf...

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Oh, that growth rate is even for a snail a bit too sloooow … :huh: The 3rd leaf of snail N°1601 has grown 1mm/day; cf. pic below. There is (or only: was?) something wrong with the roots. Do you water the seedling regularly? Don’t let the soil dry out. The mix dries very quickly.

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Kai
8 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

Oh, that growth rate is even for a snail a bit too sloooow … :huh: The 3rd leaf of snail N°1601 has grown 1mm/day; cf. pic below. There is (or only: was?) something wrong with the roots. Do you water the seedling regularly? Don’t let the soil dry out. The mix dries very quickly.

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Yes Pal, I am now watering it more frequently and it looks like it's picking up some pace. But I'm still holding my breath on this one...

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Pal Meir

The December issue of Itapebi Monthly with N°1601, 02, and 03 showing already (?) the tip of the 3rd leaf since December 3 and 14:

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Pal Meir

And the latest Itapebi Monthly January issue, this time one day earlier! :greenthumb::D

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Kai

Not very fast, but mine is still in business!

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The marking represents about 2 weeks of growth and is approximately 6 mm. I think it's getting well again.

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Pal Meir
17 minutes ago, Kai said:

Not very fast, but mine is still in business!

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The marking represents about 2 weeks of growth and is approximately 6 mm. I think it's getting well again.

Seems to have recovered! :greenthumb:;)

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caixeta

My only older baby is dying , I think it was too much water in the rainy summer.:(.

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Pal Meir
19 hours ago, caixeta said:

My only older baby is dying , I think it was too much water in the rainy summer.:(.

Oh, that is a really sad news! :crying:

Is that baby definitely dead? Or is there still any life in the meristem? If so, I would repot it in a much smaller pot and use a very fast draining soil mix.

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caixeta

The bad news. Give your opinion .5891ebbb32c0b_UNESP-P-ITAPEBIENSIS048.th

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caixeta

Good news . 13 seedlings.5891ec5b15a92_UNESP-P-ITAPEBIENSIS050.th

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Kai
10 minutes ago, caixeta said:

The bad news. Give your opinion .5891ebbb32c0b_UNESP-P-ITAPEBIENSIS048.th

That looks pretty bad indeed...

In a final effort to save it maybe water it with a kelp based root comforting solution and put it somewhere around room temperature with low light conditions and who knows... 

I personally woud not repot it at this stage that woud probably take away its final spark (if it's still in there that is...)

Good luck!

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Kai
12 minutes ago, caixeta said:

Good news . 13 seedlings.5891ec5b15a92_UNESP-P-ITAPEBIENSIS050.th

And with that you sure are lucky!

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Pal Meir
1 hour ago, caixeta said:

The bad news. Give your opinion .5891ebbb32c0b_UNESP-P-ITAPEBIENSIS048.th

Oh no! :sick: The roots are rotten and the meristem is dead! :violin::crying:

It is a typical Lytocaryum disease after soggy soil; happened to me many times in the past during winter with unsuited soil mixes.

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Pal Meir
1 hour ago, caixeta said:

Good news . 13 seedlings.5891ec5b15a92_UNESP-P-ITAPEBIENSIS050.th

Congrats! :greenthumb::)

13/20 = 65%; that is very good! And good luck for the future!

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