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Pal Meir

10 seeds Syagrus itapebiensis (= Lytocaryum itapebiense) received on 2016-04-29; first seed germinated after 22 days on 2016-04-20 in Kokohum® (coir) at 25°C±3°:

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caixeta

CONGRATULATIONS.

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Pal Meir
On 20.4.2016, 21:06:44, caixeta said:

CONGRATULATIONS.

Multo obrigado! — Here an update 4 days after germination: :wub:

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Pal Meir

And the 2nd baby was born after 28 days on 2016-04-26: :wub:

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Pal Meir

… and after 36 days on 2016-05-04 the 3rd baby: :wub:@caixeta :greenthumb:

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DoomsDave

cootchie cootchie cootchie

(NOT Charo . . . )

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gtsteve

There you go Pal, for your book. :D

 

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Pal Meir
8 minutes ago, gtsteve said:

There you go Pal, for your book. :D

I am still waiting till that section differentiates into »seed petiole + cotyledonary sheath + radicle«. :P

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Pal Meir

One of the ten seeds is rotten: :sick:

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The latest baby (and also the two before) is still okay: :wub:

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Pal Meir

@gtsteve And for the obligatory family album the 1st baby 15 days after germination: :greenthumb::D

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gtsteve

I got the seed bit right, glad to be able to help. :D

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Pal Meir

After the shock yesterday with the rotten seed :sick: I could welcome today after 38 days a healthy baby N°4: :wub:

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Pal Meir

The baby boom is continuing, until now 5/10 germinated already within 40 days: :D

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Pal Meir

»The only known population is extremely threatened with only about 20–25 plants left in the wild. From our current knowledge, we would rank this plant as Critically Endangered. This species grows well as a potted plant and continues to flower and fruit more vigorously in a pot than it does in the wild. Therefore ex situ conservation is a potential conservation strategy, and recent successes in germinating the seed have sparked new hope for the species.« (Noblick & Lorenzi 2010) – I hope my seedlings will be a small contribution to the survival of this endangered species:

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Pal Meir

Three days ago I received the sad news that »there are no more plants in the habitat«. :bemused:

The good news is that the first seedling shows its cotyledon (1st plumule) so that I decided to plant it already in a pot. :greenthumb: The soil mix I am using is the same as for L. weddellianum.

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Pal Meir

Oops, the pot is actually 1.000-times bigger than declared above, not »8x8x9 mm«, but »8x8x9 cm« … :P Anyone noticed? :lol:

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Pal Meir

As I was asked about my germination method I thought it would be best to post my handling of the seeds here too for all in Lytocaryum interested fans. — At first: my »method« is nothing special. In case of such valuable seeds as of this most endangered species I control them daily:

(1) At arrival I cleaned them under warm water. (2) I soaked them one day in warm water (ca. 30-35°C). (3) I put them in a box with moist Kokohum® (coco peat). (4) I stored the box over a central heating, isolating it with foam rubber, keeping the temperature about 25±3°C. (5) I controlled the seeds daily, soaked/cleaned them shortly in warm water (against mould) and controlled also the moisture of the coco peat. – That’s all I was doing. :interesting:

Here the box filled with moist Kokohum®:

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The box was put on top of a central heating (as I did also with Lytocaryum insigne in 2014):

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Bananengeknl

1st leave in sight :wub:

 

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Pal Meir
43 minutes ago, Bananengeknl said:

1st leave in sight :wub:

Very nice! :greenthumb: Is it already the tip of the eophyll?

My seedlings still hide their first plumule under the seed:

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Bananengeknl
13 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

Very nice! :greenthumb: Is it already the tip of the eophyll?

My seedlings still hide their first plumule under the seed:

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Yes Pal, growing lovely now:greenthumb:

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Pal Meir

The cotyledon of my first seedling seems to be pinned between seed and seed petiole. I hope it can come through, or do I need the advice in obstetrics by Geburtshelfer @Phoenikakias?

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Pal Meir

An update of the three younger babies 11, 9, and 7 days after germination:

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Pal Meir

Will the cotyledon (1st plumule) come through? :unsure:

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Pal Meir

The cotyledon made it without obstetrics! :D

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Pal Meir

As N°4 is showing the tip of the cotyledon (pic #1) I decided to plant the babies N°3 and N°4 also in pots (pic #2) where N°1 and N°2 are still thriving. And the (at first heavily pinned) cotyledon of N°1 seems to be happy and growing at an enormous speed (pic #3). :greenthumb::D

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Pal Meir

Is there (in addition to @Bananengeknl :greenthumb::)) nobody :unsure: on this planet (apart from the owner :innocent: of the parent trees in Brazil) with a seedling :wub: already sprouted ??? :huh: Please post your pics and tell us about your germination methods! :interesting:

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Pal Meir

Nobody else? :huh:

@Bananengeknl What soil mix are you using? And what is the size of your pot? It looks much deeper than mine (9cm). :interesting:

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Pal Meir

As long as nobody else posts his comments :interesting: I’ll continue my monologue. Today also the 5th baby is showing its cotyledon so that I put it into a pot, too. The other four seeds are still sleeping :asleep:, or …… :unsure: …… :sick:?

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Bananengeknl
7 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

Nobody else? :huh:

@Bananengeknl What soil mix are you using? And what is the size of your pot? It looks much deeper than mine (9cm). :interesting:

@Pal Meir Im using mixed soil from Mypalmshop. nice soil. with 0.7L tall palm pots. 7x7x18cm

Like this;

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Pal Meir

@Bananengeknl Thanks for your reply!:interesting:

An update of the 2nd baby :wub: 28 days after germination (for the family album); the remaining 4 seeds are still sleeping :asleep: … Please, disturb them! — And nobody else germinating this most threatened species? :huh:

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cristi

Uau, really nice. Your seeds/seedlings look so clean (same situation for the other thread with Chamaedorea). I always get fungus if I cover the germination box. Do you use something against fungus?

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Pal Meir
9 minutes ago, cristi said:

Uau, really nice. Your seeds/seedlings look so clean (same situation for the other thread with Chamaedorea). I always get fungus if I cover the germination box. Do you use something against fungus?

No, I’m using nothing but water (and later, not yet very diluted fert). — When I have seeds which are smelling strange (as in case of my mouldy Ch. tuerckheimii :sick:) I wash them with water and use the paper towel method. And if the seeds are most valuable (as these ones, which didn’t have any strange smell at all) I wash them even daily. — Baby N°1602 is now put again back into its pot with 2/3 pine bark + 1/3 Seramis. I had to wake it today because of the photo appointment. :D

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Pal Meir

And … you may admire it: :mrlooney: the 2nd plumule of the 1st baby, :wub: only 34 days after germination! :greenthumb::D (The baby got a shower before so that it became clean for the photo appointment.) :lol:

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5 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

And … you may admire it: :mrlooney: the 2nd plumule of the 1st baby, :wub: only 34 days after germination! :greenthumb::D (The baby got a shower before so that it became clean for the photo appointment.) :lol:

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Thanks for this really interesting thread Pal! 

If I may ask, where did you get these Syagrus Itapebiensis seeds? I would love to contribute towards saving this species.

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Pal Meir
21 minutes ago, nitsua0895 said:

Thanks for this really interesting thread Pal! 

If I may ask, where did you get these Syagrus Itapebiensis seeds? I would love to contribute towards saving this species.

There are at present no seeds available, but you could try your luck in the forum »Palm Exchange« or so …… :indifferent: I myself tried for a very long time to get seeds, and even if you get some it is no guarantee at all that they will germinate. :bemused:

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Kai

This is such an exciting thread Pal! Thank you for documenting! 

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caixeta

My unique  " baby"57475d412b7f1_Goeldii006.thumb.JPG.a7c7a57475d6f96abb_Goeldii007.thumb.JPG.daf3a

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Pal Meir
9 minutes ago, caixeta said:

My unique  " baby"

Oh, what a beauty! :wub: How old is she? When was she born?

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caixeta

I got in the Fazenda São Miguel , Itacaré -Bahia, with my friend Carlos Alex Guimarães , brought by plane with the greatest care , I do not know precisely its age.

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Pal Meir

My five babies are still so tender that I have to protect them under a plastic lid when I give them some warm light from my reading lamp:

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