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RJ

OKay. So your BxJ croaked as well? I see it listed at the beginning of the thread but no mention of it later on, alive or dead?  

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yabazid

yea it gave up as well. I mentioned what I was left with on october 2017. Checkout the post.

 

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yabazid

Bjxb still getting thicker and picking up height there. 56D460CA-9D28-45B3-9254-C2FB44553BDA.thumb.jpeg.269ce16d5c0a33f3807372a2a9d951ae.jpeg
 

JxB here looking good and getting there slower but it’s much healthier than before. Lots peroxide saved it 35FDF07A-67D7-4C46-B5B3-96401D8CE410.thumb.jpeg.731afa6ad8f7a1097f413ea869f664d2.jpeg

BJxJ is a fighter. Happy it pulled through as well. ED5FCD39-3868-4069-ADC4-DD64AE149AF0.thumb.jpeg.a2ac5647e1e3acdbcbc0f76790674658.jpeg
 

I am hoping these grow much more confidently in future winters as they pretty much established their roots in and perhaps thick enough :rolleyes:

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OC2Texaspalmlvr

@yabazid your BJxB is a beaut :wub: getting real thick ! 

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yabazid

Hey guys i know I just uploaded the updates for the hybrids but I wanted to get some insights for the BJxJ crown. Please take a look at the following picsand let me know what you think. I will start again with the peroxide weekly I guess. It fuzzed so much I was surprised! 
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8B palms

I too had this hybrid but it succumbed to the humidity after 2 years it was on a raised berm, I think more than 50% Jubaea linage in any hybrid in much of the southeast is just a struggle, a handful of people might have luck.  I suspect if you can get them to a decent size 15 g plus, then maybe you have a better chance.  I hope yours can get through this phase.

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swolf

Looks like the BJXJ has pushed out the damage.  Yes the humidity tolerance varies depending on the genetic reassortment.  A systemic fungicide would provide some ‘insurance’.  Here’s on older photo of one I have in humid northern Florida:

 

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Love them palms

I live in mukilteo wa Z8B  I have 3 from Patric  1 jubaea x butia yatay, 1 jubaea x BJ, 1 BJ x jubaea. all looking great.  I have 2 Jubaea x Butia from mule palms of Mississippi that are not looking as great. All of them are in the ground  now. Can't  wait to see how they do

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yabazid
On 6/11/2020 at 4:28 AM, swolf said:

Looks like the BJXJ has pushed out the damage.  Yes the humidity tolerance varies depending on the genetic reassortment.  A systemic fungicide would provide some ‘insurance’.  Here’s on older photo of one I have in humid northern Florida:

 

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Hew swolf, how big was it when you decided to put it in the ground and how long ago was it till it got to this massive size? 
 

17 hours ago, Love them palms said:

I live in mukilteo wa Z8B  I have 3 from Patric  1 jubaea x butia yatay, 1 jubaea x BJ, 1 BJ x jubaea. all looking great.  I have 2 Jubaea x Butia from mule palms of Mississippi that are not looking as great. All of them are in the ground  now. Can't  wait to see how they do

Love them palms, you should post some photos here for all of us to enjoy their growth B)

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OC2Texaspalmlvr
10 minutes ago, yabazid said:

Love them palms, you should post some photos here for all of us to enjoy their growth B)

I 2nd that @Love them palms

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Love them palms
1 hour ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

I 2nd that @Love them palms

I will when it quits raining 

 

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OC2Texaspalmlvr
8 minutes ago, Love them palms said:

I will when it quits raining 

 

Sounds good , gotta love free watering of the garden =) 

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Love them palms
27 minutes ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Sounds good , gotta love free watering of the garden =) 

Yep. It helps the palm food reach the roots as well. But I'm tired of rain. Ready for the real summer

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Love them palms

First 3 picks are from patric- jubaea x butia yatay, BJ x Jubaea and Jubaea x BJ

The second 2 are from mule palms of Mississippi one of them was having a hard time in the pot but is now recovering with fertilizer and TLC.was going downhill when I got it second one is just ok. And I threw in a pic of my Butia x jubaea for the heck of it

 

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swolf
21 hours ago, yabazid said:

Hew swolf, how big was it when you decided to put it in the ground and how long ago was it till it got to this massive size? 
 

Love them palms, you should post some photos here for all of us to enjoy their growth B)

It’s been in the ground about 10 years.  Planted as a sturdy but small palm (no more than a 3 inch base, maybe equivalent to typical 7 gallon size).  Here’s a photo from this year, different angle:

 

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SailorBold

JxBf3..   landscaper trimmed it while I was out of town..  Got me very upset.

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SailorBold

Looked like this before..

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Fusca
3 minutes ago, SailorBold said:

Looked like this before..

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I don't blame you - I'd also be upset.  Hopefully it will fill out soon.  Being an F3 does it have any hybrid vigor?

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yabazid

Landscaper probably didn’t do better and thought he cleaned it up. I’d be upset as well but oh well! 
so what is f3? What is it crossed back with?

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SailorBold

As far as I know.. this is a Jubaea xbutia xbutia xbutia. Its somewhat slow.. but is becoming more massive every year. The leaves are getting huge..The palm was 85-90% defoliated year before last at 8-9f with a week of barely above freezing..(you can see damage from that still showing) but actually very hardy with leaflet discoloration to no damage any other year with temps in the teens. Im just bummed because it was still in recovery. Man.. 

Its pretty vigorous.  Definitely faster than butia..  ( not sure about jubaea)..  but becoming one of my favorites. I hope it speeds up a little.. im going to fertilize it like crazy now. Lol

Before the rough winter...

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SailorBold

Butchered BJxB..

 

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yabazid
15 minutes ago, SailorBold said:

Butchered BJxB..

Oh nooooo

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mdsonofthesouth

I never will understand folks removing green growth from a palm....

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OC2Texaspalmlvr

Wow I'm pretty sure I would be firing your landscaper. Those poor palms , the mistreatment they have endured =/ Haha kidding aside your F3 is getting real thick,  we need a shoe or bucket in the pic for scale =) 

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yabazid

I did this collage to not have to post many angles and save space. This is after two weeks of treating with peroxide. 
please take a look and let me know what you think the reason for this yellowing. Thank you

BJxJ

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TexasColdHardyPalms

Hasn't been exposed to the sun therefore no photosynthesis. Yellow/white unopened appear isnt a bad thing. 

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yabazid

Bjxb getting huge56CDA14D-AE0A-4103-83DC-1BDAEC98F128.thumb.jpeg.da597c673cd4b10b2a28f9f7559ccaed.jpeg

Another angle

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JxB looks great 

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BJxJ getting stronger

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OC2Texaspalmlvr

Nice update pics @yabazid there all looking good :greenthumb:

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LeonardHolmes

What a great thread.  Thanks so much for the pics.  I hope to purchase a JxB for my zone 8b (barely) yard on the Outer Banks of NC.  "Pindo palms" do pretty well here, but a few freeze every few years when we get a bad winter.

How does hardiness compare to a "regular" Butia odorata?  

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