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Roystonea oleracea in Santana California

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Took these shots of a big ollie in the center of town.

note three infructescenses!

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I'll need to get close and see the seed shape. I understand that ollies have globose - spherical - seeds, instead of the elongated ones in a regia.

 

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In the county seat of the big OC put on your shoes . . . .

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It is magnificent!

The only one that size I know of in LA/OC.

 

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It must be well watered for a Royal to look that good in dry S. Cali.  I wonder if the seeds will be viable?

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That is a 'Snodger' Dave :D............They are a very common palm in the Queensland tropics but I still love their majesty.

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Gorgeous specimen! Super tall, I wonder how old it is?

Palos Verdes Estates - coastal Los Angeles - 33°45'N 118°24'W

On a cliff, 2 blocks from the Pacific Ocean. Zone 10b - Sunset zone 24

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The heat island effect of the concrete building must help the microclimate a bit, wouldn't you say? South facing concrete wall helps?

Mission Viejo, CA

Limited coastal influence

5-10 days of frost

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17 hours ago, Danilopez89 said:

Very nice looking palm!:greenthumb:

 

She's loaded! :drool:

 

12 hours ago, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

It must be well watered for a Royal to look that good in dry S. Cali.  I wonder if the seeds will be viable?

I'm going to make it my mission to find out! Roar on down there this weekend and see if seeds can be harvested.

 

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That is a 'Snodger' Dave :D............They are a very common palm in the Queensland tropics but I still love their majesty.

"Snodger?" Another cool Australianism? :)

 

10 hours ago, Panamajack said:

Gorgeous specimen! Super tall, I wonder how old it is?

Based on my own specimens, I'd say about 20 years.

 

10 hours ago, Brett in Mission Viejo said:

The heat island effect of the concrete building must help the microclimate a bit, wouldn't you say? South facing concrete wall helps?

Most definitely. Santa Ana is also an exceptionally warm place, interestingly enough.

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50 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

 

I'm going to make it my mission to find out! Roar on down there this weekend and see if seeds can be harvested.

 

"Snodger?" Another cool Australianism? :)

 

Based on my own specimens, I'd say about 20 years.

 

Most definitely. Santa Ana is also an exceptionally warm place, interestingly enough.

Hey Dave,

I wouldn't mind having a few of those seeds if they are viable.  By the way, you said that Santa Ana is an exceptionally warm place.  Do you think it is warm enough for a Coconut Palm to make it there, especially one of the more cold hardy tall varieties planted on the south or west side of a building?

John

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26 minutes ago, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Hey Dave,

I wouldn't mind having a few of those seeds if they are viable.  By the way, you said that Santa Ana is an exceptionally warm place.  Do you think it is warm enough for a Coconut Palm to make it there, especially one of the more cold hardy tall varieties planted on the south or west side of a building?

John

I doubt a coconut has a prayer in Santana. We have a long cool season, which is even worse than the odd freeze  you guys get. The only place a coconut will make it here so far as is known, would be in the low desert in Palm Springs.

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1 hour ago, DoomsDave said:

I doubt a coconut has a prayer in Santana. We have a long cool season, which is even worse than the odd freeze  you guys get. The only place a coconut will make it here so far as is known, would be in the low desert in Palm Springs.

Yeah, just wishful thinking I guess.  We do have a lot more winter time warmth over here.  We hit a record high of 88F on Sunday, breaking the old record of 85F.

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On 2/2/2016, 9:33:09, DoomsDave said:

Took these shots of a big ollie in the center of town.

note three infructescenses!

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Dave, How sure are you that it's 100%  Roystonea oleracea ? Did the owner tell you where the palm/seed originated from? 

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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1 hour ago, Josh-O said:

Dave, How sure are you that it's 100%  Roystonea oleracea ? Did the owner tell you where the palm/seed originated from? 

I remember Dave posting about this same palm a while back. It was confirmed to be an ollie by at least one if not several palmtalk members. 

I've been schooled on how to properly id these guys several times already but I still have a hard time with them anyways.:blink::blink::blink:

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20 hours ago, Danilopez89 said:

I remember Dave posting about this same palm a while back. It was confirmed to be an ollie by at least one if not several palmtalk members. 

I've been schooled on how to properly id these guys several times already but I still have a hard time with them anyways.:blink::blink::blink:

I'm in the same club. Just when I think I'm right I'm wrong...lol:lol:

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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21 hours ago, Danilopez89 said:

I remember Dave posting about this same palm a while back. It was confirmed to be an ollie by at least one if not several palmtalk members. 

I've been schooled on how to properly id these guys several times already but I still have a hard time with them anyways.:blink::blink::blink:

The only two I am able to tell apart now are the elatas and regias, which I am convinced are still separate Roystoneas, since the elatas seem to grow taller, have thinner trunks and sometimes have a slight bent in the middle or top of the trunk.

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