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Hello everybody, I want to know if this 2 hybrid exist or not?

Is anyone has picture?

Where I can find it?

thanks

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Tom in Tucson
10 hours ago, corsafafa said:

Hello everybody, I want to know if this 2 hybrid exist or not?

Is anyone has picture?

Where I can find it?

thanks

These are documented hybrids: Jubaea Butia

                                        Jubaea Syagrus

                                        Butia Jubaea,

                                        Butia Parajubaea

                                        Butia Syagrus

 

Jubaea Parajubaea or vice versa have not been documented.

 

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 78°, Lo 44° (1-31)

 

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corsafafa

Ok thanks but patric Schaffer has create parajubaea x jubaea, no?

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Jamesasb

Patric says jubaea x parajubaea has never worked for him

parajubaea x jubaea i never asked

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corsafafa

Patric has said that recently?

Why few people have this hybrid : parajubaea x jubaea?

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Ben in Norcal

I have never heard of this hybrid existing.

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Tom in Tucson
17 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

I have never heard of this hybrid existing.

Since we know these hybrids exist: Jubaea X Butia (JxB)

                                            Jubaea X Syagrus

                                            Butia X Jubaea

                                            Butia X Parajubaea (BxPj)

                                            Butia X Syagrus

You've got to wonder if you can cross JxB with BxPj to produce something close to JxPj (albeit half Butia). 

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 77°, Lo 38°


 

 

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Ben in Norcal
8 hours ago, Tom in Tucson said:

Since we know these hybrids exist: Jubaea X Butia (JxB)

                                            Jubaea X Syagrus

                                            Butia X Jubaea

                                            Butia X Parajubaea (BxPj)

                                            Butia X Syagrus

You've got to wonder if you can cross JxB with BxPj to produce something close to JxPj (albeit half Butia). 

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 77°, Lo 38°


 

 

Maybe!  I'm picking up a B x Parajubaea sunkha from Patric today, so excited about that!

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corsafafa

Wow Ben  in Norcal, a B x sunkha, it's wonderful ! There is not in patric's list !!!

he has others hybrids in production?

Dis you ask him if he has a jubaea x parajubaea???

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Ben in Norcal

Picked up my B x P sunkha today - just a liner seedling though, not much to look at.

I did ask Patric if he has ever done a Jubaea x Parajubaea, and he said NO.  It has not been possible/they have never been viable.  He mentioned he thinks he has done the reverse (Parajubaea x Jubaea) - but he is growing the seedlings out to make sure they are what he thinks.

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foxtail
On 2/3/2016, 2:24:16, corsafafa said:

There is not in patric's list !!!

Where is that list?

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Tom in Tucson
On 2/7/2016, 8:00:05, Ben in Norcal said:

Maybe!  I'm picking up a B x Parajubaea sunkha from Patric today, so excited about that!

I own 2. In this thread (here) you can read how enthusiastic I am about this hybrid.

 

To get back on topic, I wonder if the first posting in this topic is a truthful statement of the hybrids in question (JxPj or PjxJ)?

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 84°, Lo 42°

 

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corsafafa

Thank you TOM, these hybrid exist, Josh-O them but there is no pictures...

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Ben in Norcal

Hi guys - if these hybrids exist, I'd like to know who made them.  Patric has said JxP has not been possible, and while he believes he has done PxJ, he has not yet released any.  So neither of these hybrids have come out from Patric as yet.

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corsafafa

Josh-O said he has bought them from patric... I don't understand !

 

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Josh-O
5 hours ago, corsafafa said:

Josh-O said he has bought them from patric... I don't understand !

 

what's not to understand???!!!

have you not received my PM's????

 

 

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Tom in Tucson

Did Patric(k) sell a J x Pj and a Pj x J to Josh? I (for one) would like to know!

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 91°, Lo 50°

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corsafafa

Yes josh said me he bought them from Patrick Schaeffer...

Tom if ptrick sell this hybrid please contact me because he don't answer to my mails...

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Josh-O
On 2/15/2016, 2:14:44, corsafafa said:

Josh-O said he has bought them from patric... I don't understand !

 

yup, that what he said when I bought 2 of the almost 2 yrs ago. He offered them to me and they were spendy

Now seriously folks.. did this hybrid actually take?????????

who knows. He said it was not likely.....

But.....................................only time will tell GUYS

 

 

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Josh-O
9 hours ago, corsafafa said:

Yes josh said me he bought them from Patrick Schaeffer...

Tom if ptrick sell this hybrid please contact me because he don't answer to my mails...

why are you so wound up on this hybrid???

again, have you not read any of my PM's??

HAPPY GROWING  corsafafa! ;)

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Tom in Tucson
On 2/13/2016, 7:22:35, Ben in Norcal said:

Hi guys - if these hybrids exist, I'd like to know who made them.  Patric has said JxP has not been possible, and while he believes he has done PxJ, he has not yet released any.  So neither of these hybrids have come out from Patric as yet.

 

2 hours ago, Josh-O said:

yup, that what he said when I bought 2 of the almost 2 yrs ago. He offered them to me and they were spendy

Now seriously folks.. did this hybrid actually take?????????

who knows. He said it was not likely.....

But.....................................only time will tell GUYS

 

 

Which of the above statements is correct? What did Josh buy? Are they planted in Vista? Are any images posted anywhere?

Did Patric(k) sell a J x Pj and a Pj x J to Josh? I (for one) would like to know!

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 86°, Lo 56°

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Ben in Norcal
19 hours ago, Tom in Tucson said:

 

Which of the above statements is correct? What did Josh buy? Are they planted in Vista? Are any images posted anywhere?

Did Patric(k) sell a J x Pj and a Pj x J to Josh? I (for one) would like to know!

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 86°, Lo 56°

I can't really help you Tom, but what I wrote above is what Patric told me last week.  But maybe he forgot or just thinks they didn't take?

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Tom in Tucson
On 2/19/2016, 6:21:06, Ben in Norcal said:

I can't really help you Tom, but what I wrote above is what Patric told me last week.  But maybe he forgot or just thinks they didn't take?

Regardless of whether the hybrids took or not, why won't Josh post images here for us to decide for ourselves?

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 84°, Lo 50°

 

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Ben in Norcal

Uh oh Josh, I think you were just "blackstemmed!" :interesting: :D

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Tom in Tucson

"Uh oh Josh, I think you were just "blackstemmed!"

What say you Josh? Need more time to take some pics? :blush:

 

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 88°, Lo 50°

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Tom in Tucson

Bump... where's the pics?

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 94°, Lo 53°

 

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Ben in Norcal

Tom, you are like a dog with a bone!

I didn't take a pic of the B. paraguayensis x Parajubaea while I was there.  You are closer to Josh than me - go take a pic! :lol:

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Tom in Tucson
16 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Tom, you are like a dog with a bone!

I didn't take a pic of the B. paraguayensis x Parajubaea while I was there.  You are closer to Josh than me - go take a pic! :lol:

I'm sure Josh appreciates your defense. The Butia paraguayensis hybrid is not even mentioned in this thread. Why won't he answer my questions in this thread or in this one?

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

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gyuseppe

Jubaea x parajubaea or parajubaea x jubaea,these hybrids exist?
(according to my opinion :No)

 

 

 

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Tom in Tucson
On 4/21/2016, 6:52:32, Ben in Norcal said:

PalmTalk quote error

 

On 4/22/2016, 4:26:40, gyuseppe said:

Jubaea x parajubaea or parajubaea x jubaea,these hybrids exist?
(according to my opinion :No)

In a PM from Patric(k) Schafer he claims he gave a couple PJCXJUB to people in San Francisco and sold some to some people in the EU (he didn't say who, where or when). He said it was within the last 3 years.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 94°, Lo 59°

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Ben in Norcal
7 hours ago, Tom in Tucson said:

 

In a PM from Patric(k) Schafer he claims he gave a couple PJCXJUB to people in San Francisco and sold some to some people in the EU (he didn't say who, where or when). He said it was within the last 3 years.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 94°, Lo 59°

I'd love to see those!  I wonder if they were, in fact, hybrids.

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corsafafa

Do you have news about parajubaea x jubaea of patrick??

you have contact him? he has new hybrids this year???

 

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gyuseppe
7 minutes ago, corsafafa said:

Do you have news about parajubaea x jubaea of patrick??

you have contact him? he has new hybrids this year???

 

you have a real obsession for these hybrids,There are many species from grow 
 

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Tom in Tucson
20 hours ago, corsafafa said:

Do you have news about parajubaea x jubaea of patrick??

you have contact him? he has new hybrids this year???

 

In the PM from Patric(k), I asked if he had updated his list. He hasn't updated it since March 23, 2015. Maybe if you ask him about the details of his sale to some people in the EU, you'll have better luck than me.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 111°, Lo 70°

 

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corsafafa

he don't answer from my mails... patrick is member of this forum? what's his pseudo???

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Tom in Tucson
7 hours ago, corsafafa said:

he don't answer from my mails... patrick is member of this forum? what's his pseudo???

To the best of my knowledge Patric(k) has no user account on this forum, and I've never seen any evidence of him on any other discussion (chat) boards.

Good luck using e-mail :rolleyes:

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 112°, Lo 71°

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Ben in Norcal
7 hours ago, Tom in Tucson said:

To the best of my knowledge Patric(k) has no user account on this forum, and I've never seen any evidence of him on any other discussion (chat) boards.

Good luck using e-mail :rolleyes:

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 112°, Lo 71°

He reads here...whenever I see him, he comments on something I posted about.  Hi Patric! :P

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corsafafa

news about this hybrid???

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