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Ceroxylon parvifrons


Rafael

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30 minutes ago, Rafael said:

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Hi! One of mine just perished for some unidentified plausible reason. But the other one remains healthy. It really looks not like parvifrons. Maybe vogelanium :interesting: Richnorm was right ^_^

Sorry to hear of the second one not doing so well, but the one in the photo looks great!! 
 

I think you may be right with the id too - Parvifrons seems overall a neater looking palm. Still I can’t imagine there are too many people growing vogelanium so you still have a wonderful palm. 
 

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On 1/22/2021 at 10:56 AM, Plantasexoticas said:

How are all these Ceroxylon getting on? 
 

I purchased c.Parvifrons from seed and have been growing them for a number of years, still some way off any true fronds but I do hope they are Parvifrons 

One of mine died too but the other is doing well, if slow.  I recently got a seedling what seems like real parvifrons though still not at split leaf stage it feels different to the touch. Very likely this was from the same source as you (RPS).

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50 minutes ago, richnorm said:

One of mine died too but the other is doing well, if slow.  I recently got a seedling what seems like real parvifrons though still not at split leaf stage it feels different to the touch. Very likely this was from the same source as you (RPS).

I’m not sure if you can tell anything from these pictures? I’ve read through that Ceroxylon report several times (challenging to understand as still learning the terminology) but either way I still hope it’s Parvifrons. 

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I think a couple of these from the same source supposed to be C parvifrons were planted at Melbourne University, clearly they also are different and look like the others in this thread. I seem to remember the discussion being around whether they were either vogelianum or pityrophyllum. Beautiful palms regardless and surprise they have done so well here. Deep shade seems to be the key. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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I think not pityrophyllum based on side by side comparison and speed of growth in-ground though there does appear to be some variation in these (and all plants of course!).  There is an upright form of vogelianum so they could be confused if the mother plant was large and the collector didn't have a particularly keen eye.   Too soon to ID those seedlings but they look kinda stiff and are a similar vintage to the latest RPS seed.  Watch this space, we can compare notes again in a year or two. Parvifrons can be quite brown underneath when small.

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Mine look the same as yours and its definitely not parvifrons

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

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  • 2 years later...

I bought a batch of C. parvifrons seed in September 2018. I was confident they’d be the real deal as this issue with early batches was already exposed. 
 

Fast forward 4-5 years and it looks like they are turning out to be C. vogelianum too (I see plumose fronds developing). I’m a tad disappointed, although I don’t have C. vogelianum in my collection and they are also a nice palm. 
 

What I’m surprised about is how this can happen for the best part of a decade? C. parvifrons has to be one of the most distinctive palms - there’s something seriously wrong with how RPS confirm the ID of collected seed. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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How did I miss this thread seven years ago ?  :D

I will try to post some images of my palms soon.

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San Francisco, California

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