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If you had to choose only ONE palm to plant in your garden what would it be?

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Josh-O
6 hours ago, Justin said:

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I'm still drooling over this picture!!!

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Josh-O
9 hours ago, Stelios said:

Beccariophoenix alfredii. I will try to grow as many as I can. But If I could grow Satakentias, it would be my first choice.

Do you have any in the ground currently?

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Pando
21 hours ago, Stevetoad said:

Rosy palm. No question about it. 

too many and you go blind

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Stelios
35 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

Do you have any in the ground currently?

I only have 1 very small beccariophoenix alfredii seedling in the ground and the rest of them are in pots. I have a bigger one which I was growing about 4 years now but I think it will not make it so I put it back in a pot (I changed it's location in the ground 3 times so it's my fault) . I also have some seeds to germinate in Spring.

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Pando

Then again, I wouldn't mind growing this one if I had to choose a single one among others I have, knowing how well it does in my climate.

Dypsis sp. "Maroantsetra"

 

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rprimbs
On 1/9/2016, 9:19:31, Mohsen said:

a BizziXCRendaXCocosXLytocaryumXJubaea Palm :)

If we can do hybrids then I want a Cocos nucifera X Corypha umbraculifera X Cyrtostachys renda (It's a hybrid so it would definitely be hardy here!).

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Jeff Searle
7 hours ago, Pando said:

Then again, I wouldn't mind growing this one if I had to choose a single one among others I have, knowing how well it does in my climate.

Dypsis sp. "Maroantsetra"

 

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A very nicely grown Dypsis rosea. Wish we could grow them here that easy.

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John Case
On ‎1‎/‎9‎/‎2016‎ ‎4‎:‎20‎:‎15‎, Josh-O said:

Dypsis Decipiens?

What else could it be? :)

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Pando
9 hours ago, Jeff Searle said:

A very nicely grown Dypsis rosea. Wish we could grow them here that easy.

Thank you Jeff. It could be a rosea, but it looks a bit different from a typical rosea I've seen. No pink anywhere, lots of black on freshly exposed trunk (like on D. commersoniana), and trunk maintains the light blue/green color 6 feet to the ground. Not to mention its growth habit which is unusually strong for this climate. Could be a hybrid, a genetic variant? The sp. "Maroantsetra" name doesn't tell a whole lot as it was sold under that name for only a short time in 2010-11.

What say you Josh?

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Josh-O
21 hours ago, Stelios said:

I only have 1 very small beccariophoenix alfredii seedling in the ground and the rest of them are in pots. I have a bigger one which I was growing about 4 years now but I think it will not make it so I put it back in a pot (I changed it's location in the ground 3 times so it's my fault) . I also have some seeds to germinate in Spring.

happy germinating! 

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Josh-O
21 hours ago, Pando said:

Then again, I wouldn't mind growing this one if I had to choose a single one among others I have, knowing how well it does in my climate.

Dypsis sp. "Maroantsetra"

 

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This palm is getting pretty popular here on PT.

I need to find one to put in the garden ;)

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Josh-O
4 hours ago, Pando said:

Thank you Jeff. It could be a rosea, but it looks a bit different from a typical rosea I've seen. No pink anywhere, lots of black on freshly exposed trunk (like on D. commersoniana), and trunk maintains the light blue/green color 6 feet to the ground. Not to mention its growth habit which is unusually strong for this climate. Could be a hybrid, a genetic variant? The sp. "Maroantsetra" name doesn't tell a whole lot as it was sold under that name for only a short time in 2010-11.

What say you Josh?

It was called dypsis sambiranensis now called dypsis maroantsetra. I had a nice batch I started 3 yrs ago and they grw like rocketships. Not to mention pretty cold hardy doe to 30F I'm glad to see Jr. is growing so well for you. :) 

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Josh-O
13 hours ago, John Case said:

What else could it be? :)

Tough, beautiful, head turner....nuff said

Sheer awesomeness...

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bgl
36 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

It was called dypsis sambiranensis now called dypsis maroantsetra. I had a nice batch I started 3 yrs ago and they grw like rocketships. Not to mention pretty cold hardy doe to 30F I'm glad to see Jr. is growing so well for you. :) 

Some interesting background on the sambiranensis name. Ken Foster, who was President of the IPS way back in the 1970s, moved to the Puna district here on the Big Island around 1990. He had an incredible collection of palms in pots that he had started way back when he lived in SoCal (and he then moved to Florida before ending up here). He bought two acres here in Leilani Estates around 1998 and began planting out his collection. Two of the palms that he planted along the driveway had been referred to as Chrysalidocarpus sambiranensis. The genus Chrysalidocarpus of course became part of Dypsis when Palms of Madagascar was published in 1995. There is a reference to it on page 129, and it's shown as a synonym for D. pinnatifrons. And more references on page 338. After the change to the Dypsis name, Ken began to refer to these two palms as Dypsis sambiranensis and I think he even got nametags for them. For many years after POM was published it was assumed that this palm was simply a variety of pinnatifrons but as we know, it has now been given its own name: Dypsis rosea. One and the same. Tragically, Ken passed away in December 2012 after major health problems. He sold his two acres to Jerry Andersen a year prior to that.

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2 minutes ago, bgl said:

Some interesting background on the sambiranensis name. Ken Foster, who was President of the IPS way back in the 1970s, moved to the Puna district here on the Big Island around 1990. He had an incredible collection of palms in pots that he had started way back when he lived in SoCal (and he then moved to Florida before ending up here). He bought two acres here in Leilani Estates around 1998 and began planting out his collection. Two of the palms that he planted along the driveway had been referred to as Chrysalidocarpus sambiranensis. The genus Chrysalidocarpus of course became part of Dypsis when Palms of Madagascar was published in 1995. There is a reference to it on page 129, and it's shown as a synonym for D. pinnatifrons. And more references on page 338. After the change to the Dypsis name, Ken began to refer to these two palms as Dypsis sambiranensis and I think he even got nametags for them. For many years after POM was published it was assumed that this palm was simply a variety of pinnatifrons but as we know, it has now been given its own name: Dypsis rosea. One and the same. Tragically, Ken passed away in December 2012 after major health problems. He sold his two acres to Jerry Andersen a year prior to that.

Great story line Bo. I was at Jerry's 3 yrs ago and saw them growing along his driveway. They are freaking HUGE and as pink as pink gets for a palm tree

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bgl

I know - they are definitely the largest/tallest D. rosea that I have ever seen. Very impressive. :)

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Pando

Thank you, Bo, for clarifying the story behind the cultivation of these species. I've seen some images of them growing in your exceptional garden, posted many years ago. I would be very grateful to see how they would look now...

The question I have is what is the palm I'm growing - pinnatifrons, rosea, or something else entirely? It has no pink anywhere on the crownshaft or on the trunk. From Josh's history it sounds more like pinnatifrons (syn. with sambiranensis), but it's known to be quite variable as well. And what was that D. sp. "Maroantsetra" that Jeff M sold 5 years ago and it's in a few gardens around here?

There is also Dypsis commersoniana that looks *very* similar to what I have (except the red leaf).

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bgl
9 minutes ago, Pando said:

Thank you, Bo, for clarifying the story behind the cultivation of these species. I've seen some images of them growing in your exceptional garden, posted many years ago. I would be very grateful to see how they would look now...

The question I have is what is the palm I'm growing - pinnatifrons, rosea, or something else entirely? It has no pink anywhere on the crownshaft or on the trunk. From Josh's history it sounds more like pinnatifrons (syn. with sambiranensis), but it's known to be quite variable as well. And what was that D. sp. "Maroantsetra" that Jeff M sold 5 years ago and it's in a few gardens around here?

There is also Dypsis commersoniana that looks *very* similar to what I have.

You're welcome, and I'm afraid I can't provide more information than the above. I am no longer part of my first garden here in Leilani Estates so I'm unable to provide current photos. And D. commerciana is a clustering palm, and quite a bit smaller than D. rosea, which, as far as I know, is always single trunked. And no idea what the "Maroantsetra" of five years ago might be...:mrlooney:

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Pando

Thanks Bo, sad to hear that you parted ways with your first garden...

I found one older photo in this thread. The one in the foreground looks like the one I have (based on the leaf and trunk color). The one in the background is more like D. rosea with its pink cs. Do you remember them being different?

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Josh-O
3 minutes ago, Pando said:

Thanks Bo, sad to hear that you parted ways with your first garden...

I found one older photo in this thread. The one in the foreground looks like the one I have (based on the leaf and trunk color). The one in the background is more like D. rosea with its pink cs. Do you remember them being different?

 

11 minutes ago, bgl said:

You're welcome, and I'm afraid I can't provide more information than the above. I am no longer part of my first garden here in Leilani Estates so I'm unable to provide current photos. And D. commerciana is a clustering palm, and quite a bit smaller than D. rosea, which, as far as I know, is always single trunked. And no idea what the "Maroantsetra" of five years ago might be...:mrlooney:

I like a good mystery.

I was looking back to see where I originally bought this palm and I bought it from Jeff M. as a seedling and was labeled "neophloga sp. pink crown shaft"

Maybe this will shed some light?

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Josh-O
6 minutes ago, Pando said:

Thanks Bo, sad to hear that you parted ways with your first garden...

I found one older photo in this thread. The one in the foreground looks like the one I have (based on the leaf and trunk color). The one in the background is more like D. rosea with its pink cs. Do you remember them being different?

I like a good mystery.

I was looking back to see where I originally bought this palm and I bought it from Jeff M. as a seedling and was labeled "neophloga sp. pink crown shaft"

Maybe this will shed some light?

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Pando

Thanks Josh! So it's rosea then according to the history. But, with those Dypsis looks like it's not over until it flowers :)

(sorry for the thread hijack, back to the regularly scheduled programming)

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Josh-O
On 1/11/2016, 9:50:29, Pando said:

Thanks Josh! So it's rosea then according to the history. But, with those Dypsis looks like it's not over until it flowers :)

(sorry for the thread hijack, back to the regularly scheduled programming)

No worries. I did a bit more research and it's Rosea. Still a killer palm.. yes??

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Moose

Corypha, species does not matter

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Josh-O
1 hour ago, Moose said:

Corypha, species does not matter

Black stem Corypha?

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Missi

Hands down, Copernicia fallaensis for this gal :yay::wub:

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PalmTreeDude

Also a Cocos nucifera for me... But I need the garden in the right climate first!

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Kim
On 1/8/2016, 4:16:05, Josh-O said:

When you get a chance can you post a picture of your dreamy  Lemurophoenix halleuxii :yay:

Having held Josh in suspense for more than 2 years, I suppose it's time to post a pic. As they say, strike while the iron is hot. :rolleyes:

My friend and visitor Giovanna will kill me if she finds out I posted this here, but it's the most recent pic I have of my tallest Lemur, from July, 2017. Last time I was in Hawaii I took more photos of my grandchild than of my palms -- sorry! Not sorry!  -- as it should be! :wub:

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Edit: By the way, Giovanna is 6'7" for scale. (just kidding) Oh, and if you are wondering about color...

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XYZ

Mass planting of Licuala mapu under optimum conditions. Second choice would be Geonoma atrovirens, same stipulation. 

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TexasColdHardyPalms

100% Copernicia Fallaensis. Hands down best single palm. 

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mdsonofthesouth

I know this is boring, but any sabal palmetto with either bare trunk < bootjacks.

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Kris

I need not say much,most of you regular to this forum would be knowing which palm i would plant.....:P

Yes,you thought it right its "Phoenix Canariensis" .

And it must have the pineapple cut....well trimmed.And if the topic starter gave me an option of planting another palm,then i would say a male and a female CIDP so that the later generation would have pure seeds from them.And gets propagated in every nook and corner of my city ! :lol:

Love,

Kris.

 

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Matthew92

Probably Cocos nucifera (a tall variety). And I would love the climate that would go with it. I'd love to live on one of those remote islands in the Pacific that is nothing but a forest of Cocos nucifera like Johnston or Palmyra Atoll. For the latter, 175 inches of rain per year with 85 deg temps year round. :drool:

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16 minutes ago, Opal92 said:

Probably Cocos nucifera (a tall variety). And I would love the climate that would go with it. I'd love to live on one of those remote islands in the Pacific that is nothing but a forest of Cocos nucifera like Johnston or Palmyra Atoll. For the latter, 175 inches of rain per year with 85 deg temps year round. :drool:

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You and me both on the climate! Only drawback for me is Im a computer scientist/tech nerd so Id at least need a stable and fast internet connection and stable power lol. 

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Josh-O
On 2/4/2018, 4:47:00, Kim said:

Having held Josh in suspense for more than 2 years, I suppose it's time to post a pic. As they say, strike while the iron is hot. :rolleyes:

My friend and visitor Giovanna will kill me if she finds out I posted this here, but it's the most recent pic I have of my tallest Lemur, from July, 2017. Last time I was in Hawaii I took more photos of my grandchild than of my palms -- sorry! Not sorry!  -- as it should be! :wub:

DSC_0094.thumb.jpg.a19a53acd5588f52dbb69

Edit: By the way, Giovanna is 6'7" for scale. (just kidding) Oh, and if you are wondering about color...

DSC_0486.thumb.jpg.5ce99865034ec43d8e3bc

 

DSC_0010.thumb.jpg.7fc612a0576e7d4c4eb72

 

ohhh my! it was worth the wait :yay:

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kinzyjr

I'd go with our native sabal palmetto.  Guaranteed to survive our worst weather, native, immune or resistant to most pests and salt spray, and able to provide viable seeds with the neighbors' trees close by. 

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GottmitAlex

Beccariophoenix Fenestralis. (Obviously knowing the nutritional sweet spot it requires for this location.) 

 

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Josh-O
On 2/5/2018, 6:58:35, Opal92 said:

Probably Cocos nucifera (a tall variety). And I would love the climate that would go with it. I'd love to live on one of those remote islands in the Pacific that is nothing but a forest of Cocos nucifera like Johnston or Palmyra Atoll. For the latter, 175 inches of rain per year with 85 deg temps year round. :drool:

Strawn_Island_at_Palmyra_Atoll_NWR_%2851

wow!!!!!

 

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Josh-O
23 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Beccariophoenix Fenestralis. (Obviously knowing the nutritional sweet spot it requires for this location.) 

 

great choice!!!

 

that palm looks like a coconut when it get bigger

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Nakheel1412

I would probably pick Archontophoenix cunninghamiana, and try to reproduce this gorgeousness :
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